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David Ebenezer Morgan
« on: Thursday 28 November 13 06:19 GMT (UK) »
I have been trying unsucessfully to locate any details about my great grandfather.since 2007
 All I have, is his Army papers which state he was born  around 1845 in St George's Parish , London, Middlesex
I also have his marraige certificate , which shows his marraige in Ireland,but no mention of any parents
First definite clue is  in 1881 census ,when he is in Weymouth with his wife & first daughter Alice.
Any clues as to where to turn,very much appreciated
Kind Regards
 Patricia :)

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Re: David Ebenezer Morgan
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 November 13 06:56 GMT (UK) »
There is this family in 1871
2 Camperdown Place, St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey
David MORGAN, head mar 57, Labourer water side, born Kent, Deptford
Mary MORGAN, wife mar 60, Laundress, born Wales Sth
Henry MORGAN, son unm 27, Labourer water side, born Surrey, St Georges
David MORGAN, son unm 26, Labourer water side, born ditto
RG10/627/53/1

From FreeBMD
David Morgan birth Mar qtr 1845, St Saviours, 4 541

Ian C
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Re: David Ebenezer Morgan
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 November 13 07:39 GMT (UK) »
In the 1851 census there's a Morgan family at 2 Red Cross Court, St George's Southwark with a 6 year old son David born Southwark

HO107 1563 18 28

Ancestry has transcribed it as Moran with birthplace Southwk

EDIT - can't be that family - it's the same one that Eyesee found in 1871 but the David Morgan we are after was a soldier in Gibraltar at that time
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Re: David Ebenezer Morgan
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 November 13 09:12 GMT (UK) »
All the census records and the army record say Middlesex so I think it will be St George's in the East rather than St George's Southwark.

I have found a record of the 1879 marriage which does state the father's details (will send a PM about that).

The father is recorded as David Morgan, a sailor
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Re: David Ebenezer Morgan
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 November 13 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Not an exact match, but there's this baptism at St.Mary, Stepney

David Ebenezer batised 16/12/1850   born 1/10/1847

Father: David Morgan Morriss - a mariner
Mother: Martha Morgan Morriss

I thought maybe the mother was either Morgan or Morris, but not so. 

Marriage at Limehouse - 1846

David Morgan Morris and Martha Newell

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Re: David Ebenezer Morgan
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 November 13 10:54 GMT (UK) »
This is the family in 1851

25, Hardings Street, St.George in the East

David Morris - head - 55 - Mariner - Pembroke
Martha Morris - wife - 41 - Deptford, Kent
Ebenezer David Morris - son - 4 - Ratcliffe, Mx

I can't find any of them in 1861

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Re: David Ebenezer Morgan
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 November 13 10:59 GMT (UK) »
He stated his age as 14 on joining the army in 1859 ...but perhaps he was younger
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Re: David Ebenezer Morgan
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 November 13 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Can you give us a little more info? I like to see the known census details and I can't find him in 1881 with the sketchy info about a wife with no name and a daughter Alice with no date or place of birth. ;)

Oh here we are, not shown as a family unit household?

Weymouth Infantry Barracks
David Morgan, 35, born London Middlesex, sergeant Royal Artillery
Elizabeth Maud Rose Morgan, 18, wife, born Birmingham Warwickshire
but there's no daughter in evidence - ?
(consistent info for the couple in last available census - but I don't see them in 91 or 01)

edit - here they are in 01 in Eastbourne

David Morgan    55 London Middlesex
Lizzie M R 38 Birmingham
Isabel E R 19 children all born Eastbourne
David G L 15
Charles E 13
Arthur N 11

It is useful to have children's names just in case they are named for grandparents, too.

And in 1891, Alice (mistranscribed Alsie at Anc'y) aged 9, born Weymouth, David shown as born London Not Known.
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: David Ebenezer Morgan
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 November 13 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Previous thread here confirms David & Elizabeth are the right couple:

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=305332.msg1868699#msg1868699
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)