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Re: Pentland of Tullylish
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 25 March 18 20:24 BST (UK) »
If this is the same Robert who married Ann McClelland Beatty, it likely took place after 1868.
What took place after 1868?

And who do the six children born 1884-1896 belong to? 

Probate of the Will of Robert Pentland late of Mullabrack County Down Farmer who died 6 September 1897 granted at Belfast to George Clarke of Terryhogan County Armagh Farmer and Ann Pentland of Mullabrack Widow. Effects £83 10s.
Will of Robert Pentland mentions wife Ann, son Joseph, six other sons (William, Moses, Valentine, Francis, Thomas, John).

The six children listed belonged to Robert Pentland and Essy Sefton.  I believe that Essy was Robert's first wife, died and he remarried to Ann McClelland Beatty.  I haven't seen a date for the marriage of Robert and Ann.

(I mispoke when I referred to it as Robert's first marriage.  I was thinking, based on her name, that it may be that Ann had been married before.)

If Robert was married to Essy first, and their last born child was born in 1868, then Essy died sometime after that - suggesting that Anna M Beatty married Robert after 1868, and that she, Ann, is the one referred to in his will.

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Re: Pentland of Tullylish
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 25 March 18 20:29 BST (UK) »
Probate of the Will of Joseph Pentland late of Mullabrack County Down Farmer who died 10 September 1903 granted at Belfast to James Acheson Farmer. Effects £70 10s.
Will mentions wife Sarah.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Tullyish/Mullabrack/1204668 Joseph Pentland, wife Sarah, brother Francis, etc.)
Widow Sarah with nephew William-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Tullylish/Mullabrack/213437

any idea the age of Joseph when he died?

I have a Joseph Pentland, born Mar 1864, Mullaghbrack.  This Joseph had a brother, Francis Pentland, born 30 jul 1863, Knockagore, Tullylish.  Married Catherine Proctor on 19 feb 1914 at Seapatrick

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Re: Pentland of Tullylish
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 25 March 18 21:00 BST (UK) »
any idea the age of Joseph when he died?
I have a Joseph Pentland, born Mar 1864, Mullaghbrack.  This Joseph had a brother, Francis Pentland, born 30 jul 1863, Knockagore, Tullylish.  Married Catherine Proctor on 19 feb 1914 at Seapatrick

Joseph of Mullaghbrack died in 1903 was age 36- wife Sarah was informant-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05656/4592289.pdf

The six children listed belonged to Robert Pentland and Essy Sefton.
Joseph Pentland, b. 13 jan 1884, Armagh
John Pentland, b. 19 sep 1885, Lurgan, Armagh (some idea that his full name could be Sefton John Pentland - based on the death record of his wife Christina).
Rebecca Pentland, b. 6 may 1887, Lurgan
Alice Pentland, b. 11 dec 1888, Lurgan
Evelene/Eveline Pentland, b. 26 jul 1892, Armagh
Robert Pentland, b. 6 jan 1896, Armagh


Joseph born 13 Jan.1884 Lurgan LINK
John born 19 Sept.1885 Lurgan LINK died aged 10 months in 1886 LINK
Rebecca born 6 May 1887 LINK died aged 11 months in 1888 LINK
Alice born 11 Dec.1888 LINK died aged 17 in 1906 LINK
Eveline born 26 July 1892 Lurgan LINK
Robert born 6 Jan.1896 Lurgan LINK
ALL these six children were from Moses Pentland and his wife Rebecca Montgomery
John born 1885 died in infancy so could not be the one in England married to Christina, etc.

Suggest you recheck all your notes with original sources for accurate tree
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Pentland of Tullylish
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 25 March 18 22:38 BST (UK) »
any idea the age of Joseph when he died?
I have a Joseph Pentland, born Mar 1864, Mullaghbrack.  This Joseph had a brother, Francis Pentland, born 30 jul 1863, Knockagore, Tullylish.  Married Catherine Proctor on 19 feb 1914 at Seapatrick

Joseph of Mullaghbrack died in 1903 was age 36- wife Sarah was informant-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05656/4592289.pdf

The six children listed belonged to Robert Pentland and Essy Sefton.
Joseph Pentland, b. 13 jan 1884, Armagh
John Pentland, b. 19 sep 1885, Lurgan, Armagh (some idea that his full name could be Sefton John Pentland - based on the death record of his wife Christina).
Rebecca Pentland, b. 6 may 1887, Lurgan
Alice Pentland, b. 11 dec 1888, Lurgan
Evelene/Eveline Pentland, b. 26 jul 1892, Armagh
Robert Pentland, b. 6 jan 1896, Armagh


Joseph born 13 Jan.1884 Lurgan LINK
John born 19 Sept.1885 Lurgan LINK died aged 10 months in 1886 LINK
Rebecca born 6 May 1887 LINK died aged 11 months in 1888 LINK
Alice born 11 Dec.1888 LINK died aged 17 in 1906 LINK
Eveline born 26 July 1892 Lurgan LINK
Robert born 6 Jan.1896 Lurgan LINK
ALL these six children were from Moses Pentland and his wife Rebecca Montgomery
John born 1885 died in infancy so could not be the one in England married to Christina, etc.

Suggest you recheck all your notes with original sources for accurate tree

Yes, you are right - very sorry for the confusion.

These are the children I have for Robert Pentland and Essy Sefton
Joseph George Pentland, b. Jan 1851, Tullyrain, Lurgan.
Isabella Jane Pentland, bap 30 mar 1853, Lurgan, Shankill
Moses Pentland, b. 1856, Tullylish
Mary Pentland, b. 8 may 1856, Tullylish
Robert Pentland, b. 1858, Tullylish
Valentine Pentland, b. 7 dec 1860, Tullylish
Francis Pentland, b. 30 jul 1863, Knocknagore, Tullylish
Joseph Pentland, b. mar 1864, Mullaghbrack,
Thomas Pentland, b. 6 nov 1865, Banbridge, Seapatrick, FHL FIlm 101115
George Pentland, b. 11 jul 1868, Banbridge, (Ireland Civil Registration)



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Re: Pentland of Tullylish
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 13 November 18 01:42 GMT (UK) »

Joseph born 13 Jan.1884 Lurgan LINK
John born 19 Sept.1885 Lurgan LINK died aged 10 months in 1886 LINK
Rebecca born 6 May 1887 LINK died aged 11 months in 1888 LINK
Alice born 11 Dec.1888 LINK died aged 17 in 1906 LINK
Eveline born 26 July 1892 Lurgan LINK
Robert born 6 Jan.1896 Lurgan LINK
ALL these six children were from Moses Pentland and his wife Rebecca Montgomery
John born 1885 died in infancy so could not be the one in England married to Christina, etc.



And based on this marriage record, it appears they had another child not previously listed, Martha Pentland, b. 1882 and married to William Thompson.  See link. https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1902/10267/5736685.pdf

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Re: Pentland of Tullylish
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 18 November 18 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!