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Offline Neil Todd

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Re: What happened to 2nd great grand uncle Frederick?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 30 November 13 04:48 GMT (UK) »
There was a fair bit of Anglicising of names which could make finding them Veeeeery difficult. I just did a 1st name search in NSW using the Frederick John or reverse with same for parents and no luck as none (out of 237) with even similar name ???

My Gager's changed from Jaeger in 1870's

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Re: What happened to 2nd great grand uncle Frederick?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 30 November 13 04:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

NSW Police Gazette 26th March 1890

Francis Burghart arrested and committed for trial for stealing one silver watch and one gold chain at the house of Mr Wilson Smith the 'Trademans Arms' hotel in Campbell St.

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Re: What happened to 2nd great grand uncle Frederick?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 30 November 13 05:14 GMT (UK) »
Oops, Sorry re my previous post 1920 would be a descendent
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Re: What happened to 2nd great grand uncle Frederick?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 30 November 13 06:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Aussie1947 your reply; FRANCIS also had a conviction in 1863 along with the 1890 one where he was found not guilty  ???  rather strange that outcome.  It's become a bit of a family joke that he 'paid his way here to become an Australian convict'  ;D   I found a registration of a death of a FRANK BURKART 1904 NSW BDM #12741 with no parents names - yet to obtain certificate.

Shirley: I had tried to follow through on that BURGHARD at Smith St., to see if descendant, but had no luck.

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Re: What happened to 2nd great grand uncle Frederick?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 30 November 13 06:37 GMT (UK) »
NSW Police Gazette 28th July 1897
Frank Burkart charged and fined for selling liquor without a licence.  Campbelltown police,

Yewens Directory Landholders New South Wales 1900
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Burkart Frank

1904 NSW (Wise) PO Directory
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Burkart Frank, orchardist.

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Re: What happened to 2nd great grand uncle Frederick?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 30 November 13 06:51 GMT (UK) »
on Trove there are a couple of newspaper articles re Frank Burkart

also some bits and pieces regarding "F. Burghart, London Tailor to the Royal Family"

might be worth having a search on Trove

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Re: What happened to 2nd great grand uncle Frederick?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 30 November 13 06:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Gerry and Cass your replies . can certainly see Francis, maybe Frank ? being a 'bootlegger' of sorts.  Thanks info on newspaper articles on TROVE - will shift through those tomorrow.  Bonnie

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Re: What happened to 2nd great grand uncle Frederick?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 30 November 13 07:57 GMT (UK) »
There was a Frank Burkart who came from Germany and who was naturalised in 1896
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/searchhits.aspx?table=Naturalisation&ID=30&query=burkart&frm=0

so perhaps this is not your Francis.

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Re: What happened to 2nd great grand uncle Frederick?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 30 November 13 09:25 GMT (UK) »
Ros,

I think you are correct this is not Francis.

Frank Burkart of Minto was Naturalised 10th Feb 1896.

Gerry