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George PRINZ/PRINCE
« on: Tuesday 03 December 13 11:56 GMT (UK) »
On the 1891 Census there is a George F PRINZ born 1862 in Germany. He is living in Tottenham with family, with head of the household being his uncle Frederick Prinz.

Finding him on other records is proving difficult. The variations of the Prinz surname, either due to transcribing errors or changing to Prince to sound more British, doesn't help.

I think I may have found him on the 1911 Census. There is a George PRINCE born 1863 in Colback (I think it's meant to be Callbach) who is living in Tottenham with wife Selina (can't find a marriage) and several children. I'm not convinced at the moment it's definitely him, but being born in Germany is a bit of a giveaway compared to all the other George Prince's.

Can anyone help me with finding some more records and more information on George? I'm sure he must be on these other Census records somewhere...



Keen, Prinz, Printz, Melhuish, King, Croxford, Bedding,

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Re: George PRINZ/PRINCE
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 December 13 13:05 GMT (UK) »
This seems to be the son, William, who is on the 1911 census.   Did your George have the middle name Ferdinand?
 
Name:   William Albert Prince      
Record Type:   Baptism      
Baptism Date:   6 Aug 1899      
Father's Name:   George Ferdinand Prince      
Mother's Name:   Selina Prince        
Borough:   Haringey      
 


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Re: George PRINZ/PRINCE
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 December 13 13:12 GMT (UK) »
 
This is the same family in 1901, but George isn't with them

1901 census - Tottenham - 17 Shaftesbury Street

Selina Prince - wife - 28 - Islington
George Prince - son - 6 - Tottenham
William Prince - son - 3 - Kentish Town
Lilian Prince - dau - 1 - Tottenham

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Re: George PRINZ/PRINCE
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 December 13 13:50 GMT (UK) »
In 1901 there's a married George Prince (37 b Germany, wife not present) in Hackney.

Profession: working baker[y], journeyman.

RG13/217/96/7.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: George PRINZ/PRINCE
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 December 13 13:58 GMT (UK) »
This baptism of a George Ferdinand Prinz in Callbach looks promising:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NZ76-KQK
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George PRINZ/PRINCE
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 December 13 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your help :)

Great to have now sorted out info on Georg and his family.

I can't find his marriage to Selina anywhere though. I've looked at both England and Germany records (using FindMyPast and IGI) but nothing. Expect it could be due to variation of the Prinz surname and no idea what Selina's maiden name was to search for her. It should be 1877-1891 and I assume in London. Can anyone help find this record?
Keen, Prinz, Printz, Melhuish, King, Croxford, Bedding,

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Re: George PRINZ/PRINCE
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 December 13 07:59 GMT (UK) »
On the 1911 census George and Selina and family are living with James and Whilemina Holly -

On the 1891 census there's a Selina E. Holly - single - servant - born 1871 in Islington

As Selina is single on the 1891 census, and didn't have children until 1894, maybe George Prinz was already married to someone else.   This could be why he didn't marry Selina.

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Re: George PRINZ/PRINCE
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 October 15 21:19 BST (UK) »
Hi James

George and Selina are my great-grandparents. I have a lot of information about their descendants but not much about their ancestors.

Selina's parents were James Holly and Ann Medcalf.

Perhaps we can exchange information?

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Re: George PRINZ/PRINCE
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 October 15 21:23 BST (UK) »
Hi dbones

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

James should receive an email notification that you have posted and hopefully come back soon.

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