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Buttall family from Wrexham
« on: Wednesday 18 December 13 16:12 GMT (UK) »
HI

We are researching the Buttall family from Topsham Devon, who we believe originated from Wrexham in Wales. We would be interested in hearing from anyone researching this family either in the UK or the US. Our family link is via Margaret Buttall born 1790 in Topsham.

We have seen reference to a book - Kane, Ronald W.  "The Family of the Blue Boy" - about the family, but haven't been able to find it on the internet or elsewhere. We'd be very grateful if anyone knows where we could find this.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 18:31 GMT (UK) »
The few notes at  www.mawer.clara.net/loc-exeter.html  may help, and the series of database entries at  www.mawer.clara.net/sugarbbry.html , all regarding the Buttall family's businesses in sugar refining, may provide you with some useful references.

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Almeroth, Germany (maybe Hessen).

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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 18:57 GMT (UK) »
http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=487

Just enter the name Buttall, nothing else, there are 7 hits for that name,  , the earliest being Randle Buttall : will, 1684. Blacksmith of Wrexham .

This may be of some use.
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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 December 13 18:40 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for your replies. We have found some discrepancies in the internet accounts - some trees have children apparently born when the father was about ten, and others appear to miss out a generation - not difficult when all the men (and their wives) seem to have been named from a pool of half a dozen Christian names! The links you suggest are both helpful. Thank you both.

We'd like to hear from any other members of the family.

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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 December 13 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Is this Margaret H/Nearder Buttall, parents Benjamin and Margaret? And is this her father?

"Suddenly, last night, on board his vessel the Elizabeth, lying at Exeter Quay, Captain Benjamin Buttall, of Topsham, formerly, and for many years, master of a London trader from this port, but late in the coal trade." (Exeter Flying Post, 12 March 1818)
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 December 13 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that's the family. Thank you, I hadn't seen the quote from the paper, which is very interesting. Not often we get info like that from such long-gone ancestors - and it really does make the research even more interesting.

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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 December 13 08:24 GMT (UK) »
Robert Davy, of Wear (near Topsham), died a few days short of his 100th birthday and in reporting his death the Western Times, 6 Sept 1862 referred to -
 
TOPSHAM
The late Robert Davy Esq - ..... the recollections of such a man, whose life has extended over a century........ He used to say that he remembered when the grandfather of the present Mr Benjamin Buttall (now residing here) with others fitted out, in 1799, a ship called the "King George", of about 400 tons register, as a privateer, carrying 24 guns and 150 men. He used to tell that this vessel, of which Mr Buttall was captain, was placed on the "hard" opposite the churchyard to be "graved" or to clean her bottom. This was on a Sunday, a few days after she put to sea, and was never again heard of; it was supposed she foundered, having been a very old vessel, and so did no harm to the enemy.

(Am in Topsham at the moment, chasing Devon "rellies" - will see if I can unearth anything of the Buttalls)       
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 December 13 08:55 GMT (UK) »
That's a fascinating piece of info that I hadn't found hanes teulu. We're discovering more about the family almost every day. OUr interest in the Topsham Buttalls was when they joined in marriage with the Pearce family, also from Topsham, so anything about the Pearces would also be welcome.

The Quaker connection with the Wrexham Buttalls is just coming to light in our searches - Martha Buttall married Thomas Wynne and after her death he travelled with William Penn to America.

Thanks again for your kind offer - hope you find plenty to add to your researches.

Regards
Lesley

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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 December 13 09:35 GMT (UK) »
welsh wills on line

http://cat.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/gw/chameleon?skin=profeb&lng=en

I chose "Name" as the search key in the drop down menu "Choose" and "buttall" as the search name - 7 hits returned.
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.