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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #18 on: Friday 31 January 14 16:15 GMT (UK) »
I agree, the access to wills has been a blessing in family history searches! Because I've been concentrating on the Topsham Buttalls I haven't added the details relating to Yvonne and katerimmers ancestors. However, I did take notes that Samuel Buttall (son of Randall) who married Mary Woods had a brother Jonathan (born c1634??) who had children Jonathan and Ann. This was the branch of the family that migrated not to Topsham, but to Battersea London (and includes the Jonathan Buttall painted by Gainsborough). I noted that Jonathan's will mentioned his sister Martha Wynne. As I say I didn't go into the details too closely, just used the wills to verify the connection with the Topsham Buttalls. You may have this info already - if not i hope it helps.

Always happy to share my findings with other family members and look forward to hearing from other Pearce/Townsend connections with the Buttalls!


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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #19 on: Friday 31 January 14 18:21 GMT (UK) »
I must have completely missed ancestry.com's announcement of the PCC Wills so was very grateful when this was pointed out by you Katerimmer. They are a bonus and add certainty to what may have been a tentative link or provide previously unknown names. Martha Elizabeth BUTTALL was born 20 June 1627 at Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales and married Dr Thomas WYNNE Jr abt 1656 in Wrexham. They had one known  child, a son named Jonathan. Martha died abt 1670 in Flintshire and her husband remarried Elizabeth CHORLEY in 1676. In 1682 Thamas and Elizabeth WYNNE migrated to Pennsylvania, USA on board the ship 'Welcome'. I assume Jonathan Wynne migrated with them. This is part of the Quaker link to Pennsylvania.
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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 25 June 14 18:51 BST (UK) »
I have now managed to find the marriage of Anthony Wood (father of Mary Wood) - he married Joan Chambers 16 Nov 1654 at St Mary the Virgin, Twickenham, Middlesex. Anthony was "a singleman of the parish of St Matthew Friday Street London."  Joan was the daughter of Humphrey Chambers DD, rector of Pewsey in Wiltshire.  There is a baptism for Mary Wood, daughter of Anthony, 21 Jan 1675 at St Matthew Friday Street, and for her sister Ann 6 Feb 1656 at the same place.  Anthony was buried at St Matthew Friday Street in April 1686, although he was living in Bristol by then. 

One of Joan Chambers's sisters was Margaret Chambers who married a Joseph Strange 8 Nov 1649 at St Botolph Aldgate, London, and they had a daughter Sarah who is mentioned in Humphrey Chambers' will (1662).  And to get back to the subject of the Buttalls, I'm sure that Sarah Strange must be the niece Sarah Buttall who was mentioned in Joan Wood's will (1713) and that she must have been married to Jonathan Buttall (the one who died in Battersea in 1695, brother of Samuel) but I have not been able to find their marriage to prove it.  Jonathan Buttall's will mentions "aunt Mrs Ann Smith", who was another of the Chambers sisters, married to a John Smith, and none of the others seems to have had a daughter Sarah. 
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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 25 June 14 21:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you again, katerimmer ... the London details of Anthony Wood, his wife and family are new to me and something I will now try to follow up. I need now to show that Anthony Wood was a refiner before he moved to Bristol to become a partner of Thomas Ellis at the Whitson Courth Sugarhouse.

There's a 97 page history of the 'Whitson Court Sugar House, Bristol, 1665-1824' by the late I V Hall (a local historian who specialised in researching the Bristol Sugar Industry in the 1940s onwards ... his notes, files, essays etc are held at Bristol Record Office) published in 'Transactions of the Bristol & Gloucestershire Archaeoligical Society for 1944, Vol 65', which can sometimes be found for sale s/h online, is certainly held by Cheltenham Library, and probably in the Bristol libraries and archives.

I V Hall researched everything in depth, but he hadn't managed to find Anthony Wood's marriage, or his earlier children. His work is a very interesting read.
He suggests Wood was "a man of some wealth and skill as a sugar baker at the time of his arrival in Bristol."
The taxes for St James Bristol 1667 show the rental for the sugarhouse premises split between Ellis and Wood, 4s 6d and 1s 8d. He suggests that Wood had ownership of at least one of the tenements on site, possibly confirmed by its passing to Morgan Smith, Wood's son-in-law, on his death. (Morgan Smith married Elizabeth Wood, and ran a sugarhouse nearby, with his son of the same name continuing the business after his death around 1716. His will at www.mawer.clara.net/willsZ.html#smith2 ).
It would appear that Anthony Wood did much of the buying of the raw sugar, that often arrived in Bristol by devious routes.
Son Joseph Wood was apprenticed to a Bristol grocer, "his widowed mother Joan finding apparel" (1688).
By 1704 both sons Joseph and Samuel had property worth 600 (Poll Bk).
In 1696 Mrs Wood lived in Barrs Lane, and there's a suggestion that a few years earlier she may have been involved in business with Morgan Smith.
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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 25 June 14 21:42 BST (UK) »
https://archive.org/stream/historyofolderno00palm#page/n9/mode/2up

history of the older nonconformity of Wrexham and its neighbourhood
Lots of early Buttall`s are in here.

http://freespace.virgin.net/jill.farndon25/B.html
Also some clues here, the ones buried in the Dissenters ground seem to be the same ones in the Palmers book. 
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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #23 on: Monday 05 December 16 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Mary Buttall married Sir Nathaniel Hodges. Has anyone information about his parents?

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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #24 on: Monday 05 December 16 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Mary Buttall married Sir Nathaniel Hodges. Has anyone information about his parents?
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Yes, I do!  They were Baptists.  The book "A Baptist Governor of Madras in 1716" mentions Nathaniel as a schoolfriend of Joseph Collet (born about 1673), at a mathematical school run by Benjamin Morland (which would be Hackney Academy), when the Collet family were living at Hoxton Square in London, and says that Nathaniel was later taught at Taunton by a Matthew Warren, Oxford graduate.   But this book also says that Nathaniel inherited a large estate on the death of Sir William Hodges in 1714, which is not backed up by Sir William Hodges' will.   It seems that it was generally known that he had an inheritance from a wealthy uncle, but not who the uncle was.

Nathaniel and Mary's eldest son was named Joseph Jory Hodges, named after Joseph Jory, who was actually the rich uncle in question.  Nathaniel was appointed administrator of Joseph Jory's estate as his will could not be found, and the other heir was Frances Bladen, Joseph's niece. (Frances' maiden name was Jory.)  So Nathaniel must have been Joseph Jory's nephew.  Joseph was baptised in 1646 in Plymouth, Devon, the son of Nicholas Jory, a tailor, and Jenefer nee Godfrey.  Another of their children was Mary, baptised in 1636, and there is the marriage of a John Hodges to a Mary Jory 27 Dec 1660 at St Andrew, Plymouth.  So this couple must be Nathaniel's parents.  There is a daughter Mary baptised 26 Jul 1662 at St Andrew, Plymouth, who died in infancy, but I suppose Nathaniel and any other children were baptised as adults because of the family's Baptist faith, and the records haven't survived.

One of the newspaper reports about Nathaniel's later life mentions some joke about his background being in "saving soles", implying that his father was a shoemaker, which could well be true if his maternal grandfather was a tailor.                 
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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 00:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks katerimmer. That is a start.

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Re: Buttall family from Wrexham
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 06 December 16 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Just to put in my three pennorth! - there are some Wrexham Buttall entries on
my website.  At the moment they are listed under Butler.

Hope you find something useful there.

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