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Cissie Gray
« on: Saturday 21 December 13 14:29 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering when Cissie Gray died. She was born Elizabeth Fraser in 1899 in Liverpool and emigrated to Canada with her brother and mother about 1910 I think. I know she married Percy Gray but I don't know if they had any children or when she died. Although her name was Elizabeth apparently she was known as 'Cissie'.
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Re: Cissie Gray
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 December 13 15:04 GMT (UK) »
There was a marriage in Montreal 17 th June 1930 - Percy Gray and Elizabeth Fraser - Saint Anthony of Padua.
Elizabeth daughter of the late Robert Fraser and Elizabeth Lightfoot. Witnesses Mabel Ellis, David Cameron William R Fraser.

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Re: Cissie Gray
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 December 13 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Possibility on the Canada Voters List 1968 shows a Percy Gray and Mme Elisabeth Gray - App 4 Boulevard Rosemount (suite) - Electoral Dist :-  Maisonneuve Montreal Quebec. Occcupation :-  Rentier.

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Re: Cissie Gray
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 December 13 16:05 GMT (UK) »
Think your Fraser family appear on the 1911 Canadian Census - 1899 Dufferin Parc Amherst Laval Quebec.

Elisabeth Fraser  40 Born Eng. Immigrated 1910.
William R Fraser  8 Born Eng. Immigrated 1910.
Elisabeth Fraser  10 Born England. Immigrated 1910.

Haven't found the family in 1921 yet  :-\

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Re: Cissie Gray
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 December 13 16:12 GMT (UK) »
The birth of Elizabeth Fraser 15 Nov 1899 - Baptised  10 Jan 1900 - Parents Robert Fraser and Elizabeth.
There is a UK Return Passenger List for an Elizabeth Fraser - aged 60 years - Birthdate 15-11-1899 - Housewife. Travelling Montreal to Southampton 7 th July 1960 on the SS Ivernia. Address in the UK Cora Hotel, Upper Woburn Place, London WC1.

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Re: Cissie Gray
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 December 13 16:30 GMT (UK) »
There is a UK Return Passenger List for the brother William R Fraser born 4 th September 1901. (Birth agrees with a baptism for this chap in Toxteth Liverpool to Robert and Elizabeth Fraser)Travelling Montreal to Liverpool on the Empress of England 7 July 1958. Exec Director. Travelling with a wife Margaret H born October 3rd 1908. Both C/O Kemball Bishop & Co, 3 Mill Lane, Bromley London.

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Re: Cissie Gray
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 December 13 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Found anc tree which says William Robert Fraser died 1996 Montreal Quebec.  Wife Magaret H Davies died 1998 Aurora Ontario. (No sources given  :'()  Obit would be handy - believe couple had a son.
Same anc tree says Elizabeth Fraser (nee Lightfoot died in Canada 1934 - no source)

William Robert Fraser (exec) and Mrs Margaret Helen Fraser appear on the Canada Voters List 1957/62/68 - Mont Royal Quebec (48 Stratford Road) Also a Mrs May Agnes Davies - retired at the same address. (Mother of Margaret  ??? )

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Re: Cissie Gray
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 December 13 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Will post to avoid further duplication - Previous thread on Elizabeth Fraser and the Fraser Family

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=637208.0

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Re: Cissie Gray
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 December 13 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that Sandra. I wondered what had happened to 'Cissie' and whether they had any family. As you have mentioned. her brother did have a child, a son I think, I have seen something in a family tree and although I have tried to contact the person researching the tree on numerous occasions, I have not had any reply.
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