Help needed in tracing Philip Ball

[trish1120]

Hi Allan and welcome to Rootschat Samantha,

Have you  tracked down the William Ball who was a Witness to the 1824 Marriage of Philip/Mary Ann?

May I suggest you look at the William Ball who on the 1851 Census was born c 1788 Barraborou (sic), Rutland.
Wife Elizabeth born c 1791, Glapthorn, Northamptonshire
Living in Bourne, Lincs
HO107/2095/4774/14
It think he married Elizabeth nee COTTINGHAM, 27 Dec 1808, St Leonard, Glapthorn, Northamptonshire. (a Nathaniel Ball was a Witness)

Also a William BALL born c 1757, Bredstock, Northamptonshire is in Stamford, Lincs in 1851 Census.


I also noticed a Tree has your Philip born Northamptonshire to WILLIAM/ELIZABETH Nee Taylor.

FreeREG has a Marriage for a William BALL/Elizabeth TAYLOR, 24 Aug 1798, St George, Stamford, Lincs.
Burial, ELIZABETH Ball, Wife of Wm, 13 Aug 1806, age 37
A William BALL, Widower, married Lydia COY, Spinster, 02 June 1809 same Church.
(possibly same man)
(Source FreeREG)

Trish

[Alan7636]

Hello Trish, Many thanks for the information.

I shall certainly pursue the "Barraborou" lead (Perhaps that should read Barrowdon) and also the Bredstock connection.

As for the Northamptonshire family of William and Elizabeth, they are from Kingscliffe/Apethorpe areas and I have proved some time back that they are not related to my Philip. The information did in fact originate from myself and others have copied it. I prefer to go along with the newspaper report that he came from Oakham.

Once again thanks for taking the time out to research and contact me.

Alan

[MelHutch]

I am also looking into information about Philip Ball and his family. I am related via his son Willett who I believe moved from lincoln to hull. His daughter Anne married a Dewhirst at sutton village in hull. She is my gt gt grandmother. Any information would be greatly received.

Mel

[chempat]

Just putting Willett in 1871, living in Humber, Hull, at Granby Hotel
Willet Ball   35  head  publican  Lincoln St Pauls
Ann Ball   36 wife   Nocton
John Ball   5  son Lincoln
Annie Ball   3  dau  Lincoln
Julia Hyde   10   dau  Lincoln
Wm H Hyde   8   son  Lincoln
Jessy Hyde   6  dau  Lincoln
Mary Cooper   72  Mother widowed  Nocton
Emma Gipson   20
Annie Burrell   17

Mel,
Alan has not been on these boards for a year or so, but if you post again you can probably send him a personal message through the email system to alert him to your request.

Which Ball family member do you want more information about?

[MelHutch]

Hi

My great great grandmother is Annie Ball. Before she got married at the church in Sutton, which is close to where I work.

[chempat]

Have you got her birth or marriage certificate to confirm her parents?

[chempat]

Probable marriage of Willett to Ann
Marriages September quarter 1864   
Willit    Ball    Hull    9d   320   
 Ann   Hyde     Hull    9d   320

and Ann's previous marriage
Marriages December quarter  1859
Ann Cooper        Boston    7a   793   
William Henry Hyde     Boston    7a   793

This is probably Annie's birth index:
Anne Ball  mmn Cooper   
GRO Reference: 1867  June quarter Quarter in Lincoln  Volume 07A  Page 503

[BumbleB]

31 August 1864 - Holy Trinity, Hull

Willit Ball, f.a., bachelor, Gentleman.  Father:  Philip (deceased), Brazier

Ann Hyde, f.a., widow.  Father:  Benjamin Cooper (deceased), Farmer

[BumbleB]

18 October 1859 - Wigtoft, Lincolnshire - by Licence

William Henry Hyde, f.a., Widower, Grocer.  Father:  Reuben, Brewer

Ann Cooper, f.a., Spinster.  Father:  Benjamin, Cottager