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William Clarke b Lumley abt1808
« on: Sunday 19 June 05 20:48 BST (UK) »
Hi
I'm looking for info on William Clarke, coal miner, born (acc to 1851 census) Lumley. married Margaret Oliver in Feb 1832 at Houghton-le-spring. Lived Coxhoe & East Hetton in 1841 census.

I have three possibles for his birth.
(1) b 2 June 1809, christened 20 August 1809 Houghton, parents Robert Clark and Margery Harland (who also had son Robert in July 1812, and were married Washington 1808 according to Joiner)
(2) b 14 Oct 1809, christened 10 Dec Chester-le-Street, to Richard Clarke and Ann Ivison
(3) (less likely - too far from Lumley) b 15 Jun 1809 Chr 2 Jul 1809 St Margaret, Durham parents William Clarke and Mararet McIntyre.

What I'd like help with is to sort out whether his stated birthplace of Lumley in 1809 would have been the Chester-le-Street option above, or the Houghton one??

I'd appreciate any advice anyone can give on this (or on the Clark(e)s of the area at about that time
Thanks
Gclark

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Re: William Clarke b Lumley abt1808
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 June 05 09:55 BST (UK) »
What names does he give his children?   They are frequently named after grandparents.   Is this from the IGI or have you checked the parish records yourself?   Durham was not well covered by the IGI originally though it might be better now.  According to my copy of Phillimore Great Lumley is not transcribed by the LDS church which will mean a search of the original.
Andrea

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Re: William Clarke b Lumley abt1808
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 June 05 19:44 BST (UK) »

"This parish was formed in 1862 from that of Chester-le-Street, and comprises the townships of Great and Little Lumley.

We have trancribed the burials for Chester le Street up to 1813 and at that time Lumley was part of the Chester le Street parish
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John
NORTHUMBERLAND. Jude, Bootiman, Lowes, Tiplady,  Mason, Allan, Elder,
DURHAM. Jude, Jenkins, Todd, Burrell, Fenwick, Leighton, Hindmarsh, Nicholson, Cole, Emmerson
WORC. Hill, Hughes, Hodgkins.
OXFORD. Hodgkins, Young, Averice.
BERWICKSHIRE. Allan. Swan, Service, Hindmarsh, Sheil,
CUMBERLAND. Gillings

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Re: William Clarke b Lumley abt1808
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 June 05 20:12 BST (UK) »
Who are "we" and where are the transcripts?  Can anyone search them?  What about births?  Is there a transcript?
Andrea


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Re: William Clarke b Lumley abt1808
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 June 05 10:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the suggestions: I guess I need to find the record of william's birth, which is hard from Australia.  Tried looking at the children'snames, but nothing definite there (william had 10, and that covers a bit of ground). A further complication is that when he married Margaret Oliver in 1832, there is no record of parents - best bet for her birth is 1815, but my guess is that when they married, she stated her age as 21 ie. born 1811 or earlier.

If anyone is able to help with a look-up of


(a)  birth record for william clark (1809, "lumley" from census, possibly christened chester-le-street 10 dec 1809), and
(b) william clarke and margaret oliver m 18 feb 1832 houghton-le-spring,

I would be very grateful. 
Thanks
g

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Re: William Clarke b Lumley abt1808
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 June 05 22:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrea
Sorry no birth transcripts  but my wife and I transcribe burials
for Durham RO
If you have anybody you think may be buried in the Chester le Street Parish give me the names and I will look for you 1582 to 1813 only
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John
NORTHUMBERLAND. Jude, Bootiman, Lowes, Tiplady,  Mason, Allan, Elder,
DURHAM. Jude, Jenkins, Todd, Burrell, Fenwick, Leighton, Hindmarsh, Nicholson, Cole, Emmerson
WORC. Hill, Hughes, Hodgkins.
OXFORD. Hodgkins, Young, Averice.
BERWICKSHIRE. Allan. Swan, Service, Hindmarsh, Sheil,
CUMBERLAND. Gillings

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Re: William Clarke b Lumley abt1808
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 June 05 08:46 BST (UK) »
That is a lucky post as actually I do have ancestors from Chester le Street.   Dorothy Robinson bap 28 Feb 1790, who married Francis Sill in St Nicholas Durham in 1807.   Her parents were Matthias Robinson and Frances Martin who I believe was the daughter of John Martin and Frances Curry who married 30 June 1747.    This research was all done years ago - before the advent of the internet - and I have it on scrappy bits of paper written out by my Dad, who died ten years ago.
Any reference to the above names would be brilliant.
Many thanks for the offer.
Andrea

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Re: William Clarke b Lumley abt1808
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 February 16 05:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gclark,

I think I am a descendant of William Clarke. Have you figured out who his parents are?

Thank you,

Tclark

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Re: William Clarke b Lumley abt1808
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 February 16 08:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi
 I did get a lot of help in 2005...
William Clark b 14 Oct 1809 Lumley c 10 Dec 1809 CLS
Married Margaret Oliver b 4 Jul 1811 Houghton c 26 Jul 1811 HLS, on 18 Feb 1832 in HLS

William was son of Richard Clark ( b 1772 Lumley or Pontop or Dipton, c 17 May 1772 Auckland St Andrew, buried (possibly ) Pittington 8 Nov 1846. Richard was married to Ann Iveson (b 1771 Coundon, c 17 Aug 1771 Auckland St Andrew (AA) buried 6 Oct 1830 Pittington).
Margaret was d/o Robert Oliver b abt 1784 Monk Hesledon, c 19 Jun 1818, d 1851-1861, and Alice Tewart b abt 1787 Dubmire, HLS, c 15 Jul 1787 HLS, died 1830 Collier Row, HLS, bur 10 Dec 1830 HLS. They were married 11 Apr 1808 HLS.  Robert later married Ann Wright 10 Aug 1835 in HLS.

Richard Clark was son of William Clark b (I think) 9 Jan 1726 Lumley, buried 20 Apr 1788 AA. He was a linen weaver in Bishop Auckland. Richard married Ann Iveson b 1771 Coundon, c 17 Aug 1771 AA, buried 6 Oct 1830 Pittington., married 20 Jun 1797 AA.

Ann was d/o Joseph Iveson (1731, c 15 Jan 1731 Cassop, bur 13 Mar 1790 Coundon) and Mary Rodam (possibly) b after 1735 c 18 Mar 1738 Stanhope died 1784 Coundon, bur 11 Apr 1784 AA, married 16 Dec 1765 AA.  Mary is possibly linked to Hilary Rodam Clinton, but no records to prove this!

William married a Mary....(and this is a bit of a guess!) Mary Slack b abt 1724 died 26 Feb 1811 AA, buried 28 Feb AA. They were married before 1753.   Evidence is based on first four childrens names ...Rachel, George, Joseph and Elizabeth, which match William being son of George Clark b 1689 in Lumley c 5 May 1689 CLS, married 18 Oct 1712 (CLS) to Elizabeth Robinson or Roginson b 1688 Lumley c 27 Dec 1688 CLS.   Mary was d/o Joseph Slack and Rachel Middleton, married 14 Dec 1725 Middleton in Teesdale.   Would need to go through the actual registers to check this out!

That's a potted summary; William Clark b 1726 had a large family....Rachel 1753, George 1755, Joseph 1757, Elizabeth 1760, Mary 1764, John 1767 and Richard 1772.  Son George carried on the linen weaving business and in 1841 his wife Ann (nee Longstaff) was listed in William Street Auckland, as 95 years old, Worsted Dealer, living with Rachel (now Brown, aged 60) who carried on the business (1851 census).  Headstone for Ann, Rachel and some children is still in the churchyard at Auckland St Andrew (South Church)

I think the link back to Lumley is telling...there were a lot of clarks there in 1580-1700, leasing land from lord Lumley, and then getting some more in Witton Gilbert.   Not possible to sort it out, though...to many with the same names!!!
 Graham