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Edward DOWNES
« on: Monday 06 January 14 22:26 GMT (UK) »
 Edward Downes is an ancestor who went to NZ with his family in 1853.

I am trying to verify his  family details in the 1841 and 1851 censuses. I think he married in Ludlow in 1843/44 so he should appear in the 1841 census somewhere in that area .  He was reputedly born at Knoll Hill Shropshire in 1813 but no record of his birth exists .Two of his children that I have found on IGI were christened in Hope Bagot  in 1851 and 1853.

Could someone please check 1841 and 1851 censuses for me?

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Re: Edward DOWNES
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 January 14 22:57 GMT (UK) »
What was his wife's name? There is an Edward Downes in Bridgnorth Shropshire in 1851, wife Mary and 5 children. He was a blacksmith.


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Re: Edward DOWNES
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 January 14 23:16 GMT (UK) »
These are the baptisms and wife was Jane

If he went to NZ in 1853 - it must have been after October 1853 in view of the baptismal date

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Re: Edward DOWNES
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 January 14 23:20 GMT (UK) »
1851  for Hope Baggot indexed as Downs - children all b Hope Baggot


Edward Downs   36 master boot & shoe maker b Burford
Jane  34 b Bitterley
William 6
Edward  4
John  2
Emma  2 Months
Elizabeth Jones   76 lodger b Caynham
HO107 Piece 1982 Folio 435 Page 1
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Re: Edward DOWNES
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 January 14 23:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Could this be Edward this would tie in with his place of birth on 1851 census

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Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
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Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Edward DOWNES
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 January 14 23:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi

1841 Census, living alone at Hope Knowle, the birth year can be out by 5 years either way on the earlier census

Edward Downs b 1816 Burford occ Shoemaker

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Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Edward DOWNES
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 January 14 00:39 GMT (UK) »
 Thanks Carole w and Marg p  for the speedy replies.

The familysearch data on Edward (sen )s christening tallies with what the family stories suggested. It is good to have  the birth date verified with a christening record..

Thanks also for the information on the 1851 census. I did have information on two of the children . now I have a lot more to go on.

I wonder who Elizabeth Jones was? Jane's parents were  William and Ann Gittings/Gittens  so she was probably not immediate family. The whole Downes clan emigrated as steerage passengers on the ship Stately so  Elizabeth was not likely to have been a  domestic helper.!

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Re: Edward DOWNES
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 January 14 23:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Elizabeth Jones was just shown as a lodger.  Quite common in those days for people to take in lodgers 
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Re: Edward DOWNES
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 00:12 GMT (UK) »
 Thanks Carole.
I suppose they sometimes took in lodger to help pay the rent. My assumptions that it must have been a relative or someone to help out just shows how my 21st century thinking didn't account for  other possibilities. Shame on me !

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