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Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« on: Wednesday 08 January 14 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Dear all,

  I'm looking for a bit of help with accessing parish registers for Mold. They don't seem to be electronically accessible anywhere, yet several lines of my family tree end up there causing a little frustration on my part!

  The first record relates to Thomas Forsyth, who was born in Mold c.1835 to his parents Thomas Forsyth, a Scottish born cooper, and Elizabeth Williams, "of this parish".

  The second record would relate to Thomas and Elizabeth's marriage, which would - presumably - be slightly pre-1835. By all accounts, Thomas is their first born child (of three).

  The third record would be the baptismal record of Elizabeth Williams herself, who was born to John and Mary Williams in Mold sometime between 1813 and 1816 according to later censuses.

  A fourth record would be the marriage - although I really know not when - between John and Mary themselves. I know they had at least one other daughter (she is living with them in the 1841 census), but I don't have her name to hand at the moment.

  Finally, another of my lines ends up in Mold, too. And there I'm looking for the baptism in 1811/1812/1816 (again, censuses vary!) of Edward Simon, born to Edward Simon (or 'Symon' - spellings vary). Edward Sr. was a labourer.

 Any help/guidance/pointers on any of this would be most gratefully received!

    Stephen
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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Can't find any of the Forsyths sorry but there is this baptism at Mold:

Edward Simon 10 Nov 1811 (born 6 Nov 1811) to Edwd and Mary (it seems to suggest that Mary was formerly Williams?), of Gwyssaney.

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CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 20:46 GMT (UK) »
There's this one too:

Elizabeth Wiliams, daughter of John and Mary, 11 April 1813, at Mold. John was a labourer.

Can't see a marriage for John Williams in Mold.

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CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 January 14 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked the "Namesfromclwyd" website?
HTH,
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Caunt - Manchester & area, Lancashire, Nottinghamshire.
Edwards - Cheshire, Denbighshire, Manchester
Lloyd - Marbury area,Cheshire
Isherwood - Bolton/Sharples, Lancashire
Vaughan - Marbury area, Cheshire
Walker - Manchester/Bolton/Sharples, Lancashire

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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 January 14 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stephen

Taking one at a time:

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The first record relates to Thomas Forsyth, who was born in Mold c.1835 to his parents Thomas Forsyth, a Scottish born cooper, and Elizabeth Williams, "of this parish".

Could you tell us where you found this information, please? The 'of this parish' suggests it was from a parish record.


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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 January 14 09:38 GMT (UK) »
To help others in searching for the family, I think they are in Liverpool (West Derby) in 1851. Thomas, snr, is now dead:

HO107/2187/362/1

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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 January 14 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Taking things as they arrive...

Deidre - a thousand 'thank yous'! You've helped to cement two decidedly weak areas on my tree. How is it you're able to access the Mold registers, btw? Is it on paper or electronic? If it's not too difficult, would you be able to search for potential siblings of Elizabeth and Edward? Elizabeth, I know, did have a younger sister (she's living with parents John and Mary in the 1841 census on Mold High Street (or New Street)).

Megran - I don't know this site, but I'm going to go hunting now!

Gadget - I was just using old terminology for my purposes. From census data, I know that Thomas Jr. was born in Mold, Thomas Sr. in Scotland and Elizabeth in Mold. Hence writing that Elizabeth would be "of this parish" in any potential record. Sorry for confusion!

And yes, the family are in Liverpool in 1851. Thomas Sr. dying probably in 1849. In the 1841 census, both Thomas and Elizabeth are together (in Liverpool if memory serves), but young Thomas Jr. is living with his grandparents and Aunt in Mold.

Again, thanks to all - especially Deidre! - for the interest you've taken in this...
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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 January 14 09:58 GMT (UK) »
Do you have anything on their religion, Stephen - were the younger children baptized C of E, etc.

PS - If you go to FindMyPast, you might get something. However, we're not allowed to give info from there - T & C.
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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 January 14 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Final bit of clarification - John and Mary's other daughter, Sarah, was born c1821 according to the 1841 census.

1841 Liverpool:
Thomas Forsyth age 30 cooper born Scotland
Elizabeth age 25 not born in county
William age 2 born in county
Mary age 9mths born in county

1841 Mold:
Thomas Forsyth age 6 born in county
John Williams age 60 "
Mary William age 60 "
Sarah Williams age 20 "

Gadget - all the families were C of E by all accounts.

Unfortunately, both my young daughter and resolutely unaffected-by-inflation wage have prevented me from being a member of any paid for genealogical sites for the past few years.
Kirkburton Bray Morton Charlesworth Kay Swallow Moorhouse Walker Mathewman
Penistone Micklethwaite
Liverpool Moore Durning
Formby Crookham Birchall Dobb Fleetwood
Childwall Fleetwood Knowles Ireland
Kendal Coulton Derome
Essex Cooper Robinson
Warrington Bleasdale Atherton
Suffolk Death
Lewes Spurgeon Horton
East Lothian Paxton Durkie
Edinburgh Blaikie Rollock Livingstone
Chirnside Paxton
Kilbarron Young Donohue Stapleton Meagher Fogarty Gleeson Meara Nevin
Kilsheelan Hennessy
Galway Nevin