Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)

[NNR]

Re: the Sarah living with John and mary. I suppose there's always the possibility she's a neice or daughter in law rather than a daughter? Or perhaps she is the daughter, but the right baptism hasn't been found?

As for the Edward Simon marriages, I would have expected more than two to have takwn place in the whole of north Wales in that period. However this is me assuming simon to be as common a surname in wales as it is in England. If uncommon, then the earlier marriage would certainly seem to fit the bill. With edward being married that early, it would seem unlikely we'd glean his age from the 1841 census, but I wonder if wife #2 was still around then?

Thanks for the huge amount of work that's gone into this! I look forward to wasting my lunchbreak on monday piecing the john/mary families together (to that aim, the 1841 references to the families would be really useful, Roger).

Apologies for typos - trying to do this on a 'phone!

[NNR]

On firther retlection, Sarah could, of course, be another grandchild (in the 1841)...

[despair]

1841 refs as follows(with John's occupation)

1410  11/11  14     Ag Lab   New Street,Mold    (Sarah,Thomas Forsyth)
1410  12/23  38     Lab        Fern's Yard,Mold
1410  8/7  6          Farmer  Hendrebiffa
1410  2/19  16      Joiner    Argoed
1410  2/4  11        Ag Lab   Argoed

Regards
Roger

[NNR]

Deidre,

  You stated that there were

2 other Edward Simon marriages in North Wales....
 
Ruthin, 23 May 1784 to Elizabeth Thomas. Both signed x.
Chirk, 20 April 1798 to Mary Winter (this Edward was also a widower). But this Edward and Mary both signed their names.

However, I've found
29/4/1777, Cilcain Flintshire to Jane Williams
21/6/1801, Nannerch F to Elizabeth Williams
10/3/1802, Cilcain F to Ann Roberts

to add to these. Do you think there may be others too? I got these from familysearch.org, which doesn't include Mold, but was wondering on the likelihood of us missing anything else!

[despair]

I think the Edward Simon marriage to Mary Winter may have been mis-allocated(?) to Chirk in the database I think Deirdre uses.In the Marriage Bonds at NLW the record gives Edward Simon,wid.,bricklayer,Llangynhafal,Mary Winter at Llandyrnog 26 Feb 1798.

Also,I noticed that in an unrelated thread yesterday,there was a baptism quoted for Sarah Williams to John and Mary at Llwynegrin 1812.This is obviously some time off the 1841 census data but very close to Elizabeth's baptism

Regards
Roger

[Gadget]

I think the Edward Simon marriage to Mary Winter may have been mis-allocated(?) to Chirk in the database I think Deirdre uses.

Just to confirm that this is an error. I have all of the Chirk registers from Clwyd FHS and there is no marriage for this couple there.


Gadget

[Deirdre784]

Thanks Roger and Gadget, I've checked the entry and there is no parish listed on the top of the page, but given what you know, the transcription of Chirk is obviously wrong.

Deirdre

[Gadget]

One way of checking on a parish is to identify (if possible) the vicar/curate on the record and then check up on the Clergy database - this  for a diocese and then select the parish:

http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/locations/index.jsp

This for a named clergy:

http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/search/index.jsp


Gadget

Added ~

E.G
For Llandyrnog in 1798 , the diocese is Bangor:
Clergy:
Rector was John Warren, Curate was Thomas Clough

For Chirk: St Asaph
Clergy:
Vicar - David Price Curate - Samuel Steele

[Deirdre784]

Thanks Gadget, very useful.