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Christening of William Aris, c1801, Westminster
« on: Monday 20 January 14 07:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

For some time now my ancestor William Aris (born circa 1801 in Westminster) has been quite a brick wall. However, in a search for his granddaughter Esther Elizabeth Aris, I came across another identically-named lady born in 1826. I traced her family, and found that they lived in the same areas of Southwark/Lambeth/Battersea as my own Aris family. Finally I found an Ancestry tree with Esther (1826)'s father, Edward George Aris' christening - in 1804 in Westminster. I found his parents marriage certificate, naming them as Edward Aris & Martha Cray (1799). Now my William had children Edward and Martha..

I think it's looking pretty likely that my William is the brother of Edward and they are the sons of Edward Aris & Martha Cray. However, I have been completely unable to find a christening for my William. The details I have on his birth are from consistent census entries.

I can also find no likely records about Edward & Martha after their marriage - I'm hoping if I can, they may help confirm my theory.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Just to avoid wasted research, I already have all info on William's later life & descendants, just not his beginning.

Thank you.

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Re: Christening of William Aris, c1801, Westminster
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 January 14 07:57 GMT (UK) »
St John the Evangelist, Westminster
1802 Jun 6, William, s/o Edward & Martha ARIS, born May 9
1804 Apr 29, Edward Jobbor, s/o ditto, born Apr 6

St Margaret Westminster
1806 Aug 31, Charles James, s/ Edward & Martha ARIS, born Aug 1
1809 May 3, Ann Sarah, d/o Edward & Martha ARIS, born Apr 4

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CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, ROBINSON, WATSON Leeds
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York
NOLAN, BERNEY, Kildare

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Re: Christening of William Aris, c1801, Westminster
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 January 14 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much Ian! That's perfect, it confirms the connection.

Added: just found a burial for Ann Sarah in 1813, aged just 4.

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Re: Christening of William Aris, c1801, Westminster
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 January 14 08:15 GMT (UK) »
St John the Evangelist Westminster burials
1813 Mar 1, Ann Sarah ARIS, Peter Street, 4 years
1815 Jun 6, Edward ARIS, Peter Street, 40 years

May be same family as well
1808 Mar 1, Sarah ARIS, Little Peter Street, 18 months

Edward ARIS and Martha CRAY were married at Acton St Mary 15 Dec 1799, he signed, she made her mark, witnesses John Minton, Willm Whittle

A Martha ARIS married a John YATES at same church on 30 Nov 1818, both made their mark, witnesses John Minton, Jane Sansome. Does not say she was a widow, but more than likely the same lady.

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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, ROBINSON, WATSON Leeds
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York
NOLAN, BERNEY, Kildare


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Re: Christening of William Aris, c1801, Westminster
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 January 14 08:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Ian; that is really great information. Definitely seems like the same Martha, especially with that same witness.