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Manchester Grammar School
« on: Friday 24 January 14 17:31 GMT (UK) »
Seeing the last thread about MGS, I am hoping you can help me Barbara H.

I once was informed that someone did Lookups for MGS and so I posted but never heard anything.

My brother, John Christopher Owen, Born 21st September 1934, Sale, Cheshire, attended MGS probably from about 1942 - 1952 ?.

I was in possession of his School reports but unfortunately due to removal here in Switzerland, they went amiss, along with mine.

I remember reading that Chris, as he was called, was considered to be a "total loss to Society" so anything you find out about him will not astonish me.

Chris was an extremely honest person. My mother brought us both up to tell the truth, whatever. It hurt me then to read the reports but as ever not each teacher had / has the ability to understand each pupil and both of us were livewires waiting to explode!!
Whitlow: Witton-cum-Twambrooks/Northwich
Bowers: Marthall, Siddington, Cheshire
Owen: Cheshire
Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
Fisher (Pfisterer): Des Moines, Iowa 1886-
Wallis: West Riding Yks/Des Moines, Iowa, 1892-
Heinzmann: Hull/Northwich
Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
Brueck: Kocherstetten B-W
Volpp: Morsbach B-W
Schluchterer: Künzelsau, B-W

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Re: Manchester Grammar School
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 January 14 19:25 GMT (UK) »
Here you go:

Owen, John Christopher, b. 21 September 1934, [attended MGS from] 1947-1951
Assistant Quantity Surveyor 1951. Draughtsman 1956. NS  RAF, Aircraftsman.
26 Redfern Ave, Sale, Cheshire

As I said on the other post, the register was published 1965. NS stands for National Service.

Incidentally there is also a list of teachers at the front of the register. High Master during your brother's stay was Eric John Francis James, b. 1909, high master from 1945-1951.

 :) Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: Manchester Grammar School
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 January 14 09:19 GMT (UK) »
http://mgs.org/   is the school website.    They are bound to have an archivist who may have copies of reports etc.

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Re: Manchester Grammar School
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 January 14 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Here you go:

Owen, John Christopher, b. 21 September 1934, [attended MGS from] 1947-1951
Assistant Quantity Surveyor 1951. Draughtsman 1956. NS  RAF, Aircraftsman.
26 Redfern Ave, Sale, Cheshire

As I said on the other post, the register was published 1965. NS stands for National Service.

Incidentally there is also a list of teachers at the front of the register. High Master during your brother's stay was Eric John Francis James, b. 1909, high master from 1945-1951.

 :) Barbara

Thank you very much Barbara.

One thing is strange, and that is the entry date of 1947. He was 8 years' older than I was and I don't remember his going to any other school apart from a small private school "Riversdale" in Broad Road, Sale. I also attended it from 1945-1947 but he had already gone to MGS.

The address given was after he had left home and married.

Thank you, too, sillgen.

Gill
Whitlow: Witton-cum-Twambrooks/Northwich
Bowers: Marthall, Siddington, Cheshire
Owen: Cheshire
Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
Fisher (Pfisterer): Des Moines, Iowa 1886-
Wallis: West Riding Yks/Des Moines, Iowa, 1892-
Heinzmann: Hull/Northwich
Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
Brueck: Kocherstetten B-W
Volpp: Morsbach B-W
Schluchterer: Künzelsau, B-W


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Re: Manchester Grammar School
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 January 14 10:45 GMT (UK) »
Whitlow: Witton-cum-Twambrooks/Northwich
Bowers: Marthall, Siddington, Cheshire
Owen: Cheshire
Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
Fisher (Pfisterer): Des Moines, Iowa 1886-
Wallis: West Riding Yks/Des Moines, Iowa, 1892-
Heinzmann: Hull/Northwich
Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
Brueck: Kocherstetten B-W
Volpp: Morsbach B-W
Schluchterer: Künzelsau, B-W

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Re: Manchester Grammar School
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 January 14 13:38 GMT (UK) »
Barbara has an index published later when he had left so the address will be at the time of publication.  It was very common for Old Boy Associations to publish the whereabouts of the pupils every few years.  The archivist, on the other hand, will have the original entry and details from that.

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 January 14 19:16 GMT (UK) »
The book I have was intended (it says in the Preface) as a companion to a History of the school itself. The preface also states that "we have until now lacked the kind of information some other schools have been fortunate enought to have preserved, for there is no complete record of the school roll from early times. A bare register of entrants exists from 1888 but it is only since the Second World War that we have begun systematically to keep any kind of detailed record of those who have passed through the School.."

So the 1965 publication was a first attempt at creating a record of past pupils, and relied on contributions offered up by families and friends, as well as research done by school staff in preparation for the book. The entry date of 1947 for Chris could be a istake by whoever sent in the information, or simply a typo. But if the school started to keep better records after the war, there could indeed be more about your brother in their archives.
Good luck!
 :) Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk