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Re: Dias surname
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 01 February 14 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Malky, I found a census reference for 1871:

This reference to Andrew Snr for 1871 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBPZ-B1Q - age more likely as showing on this link.

I think the two censuses we have for Andrew, 1861 & 1871, might have his age mistranscribed? But this is only the transcript. The originals are likely crystal clear  ::)

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Added: And there is this for 1861 as an alternative to Andrew Snr https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VB4Q-JJF
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 01 February 14 17:26 GMT (UK) »
It's interesting that he is 20 in '61 and 10 years later, 29 in'71.

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Malky

Added, I also note that there are 3 census entries in IGI, birth year, (1871)1832, (1861)1833 and (1841)1836.

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Re: Dias surname
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 01 February 14 17:30 GMT (UK) »
 ;D My goodness, what is it about Andrew's age on the transcripts! From 1851 and the one you mentioned Heather:

Mary Dias 53 Cotton Yarn Winder b. Durnoch Sutherland
Joseph Dias 22 Hatter (app)
Andrew Dias 48 Hatter (app)...FreeCen show 18
Eliza Quin 9 lodger b. Ireland

Address: 35 King St Calton
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Re: Dias surname
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 01 February 14 17:35 GMT (UK) »
A thought....from 1841...

All we have so far for Andrew is a brother Joseph and possibly a mother Mary.

There is this family from 1841 in Glasgow Chalmers (Calton) where Andrew and family seemed to live for many years. This entry is from www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl. The other transcript shows the family as Dicas.

Isabella Dias 40 b. Scotland
John Dias 20 Shoemaker Journeyman
David Dias 20 Cloth Lapper
Robert Dias 15 Potter Apprentice
Joseph Dias 10 Cloth Lapper
Andrew Dias 5

Address: Kingfield Row, Glasgow Chalmers
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Re: Dias surname
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 01 February 14 17:39 GMT (UK) »
I had hoped we could find further details on Andrew's brother Joseph (marriage or death really to confirm parents' names). Saw this https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5HT-MSD

Wondered where he ended up  :-\

Monica

Added: maybe connected to this http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C8793799
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Re: Dias surname
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 01 February 14 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Death, Joseph Dias, (73) Butcher, widower of Mary McGill, 2nd Christina Currie or Weir. March 9th 1930. Father, Andrew Dias, mother Margaret Stewart. 39 Glenlyon Street, Glasgow. Witness, daughter Isabella Scott.

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Re: Dias surname
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 01 February 14 18:34 GMT (UK) »
~ that is certainly Heather's family  :)

I am not sure where Andrew was referenced as John (was it Mary's marriage entry?) but elsewhere he certainly shows as Andrew I think.

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Re: Dias surname
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 02 February 14 04:21 GMT (UK) »
Wow, thank you all for the help :D I'll have to go back and check it all out.

I have the birth certificate/notice for Margaret Stewart/Smith (b. 1831) and I know her parents are Thomas Stewart and Jane/Jean Swan, and she was their 2nd child.

;D My goodness, what is it about Andrew's age on the transcripts! From 1851 and the one you mentioned Heather:

Mary Dias 53 Cotton Yarn Winder b. Durnoch Sutherland
Joseph Dias 22 Hatter (app)
Andrew Dias 48 Hatter (app)...FreeCen show 18
Eliza Quin 9 lodger b. Ireland

Address: 35 King St Calton

That's what I have from the 1851 census, where Andrew is listed 18 the and son of Mary (53). Can find no mention of him earlier.

Its on her birth (which I only have a printed copy), and 1st marriage (to my g-g granddad) that he is mentioned as John..

Her marriage was in 1884.

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Re: Dias surname
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 02 February 14 04:30 GMT (UK) »

Two more children that don't show in 1881:

Jane 1853 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X1SS-KL6
Thomas 1862 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ51-R5C

I have both a Thomas & Mary listed as their children too. Thomas died in 1863 when he was 1, and I have Jane as born in 1853, but no other info on her.

Margaret Stewart died in 1912.

Margaret Stewart
widow of Andrew Dias.
Her dad is listed here as Thomas Stewart also.