Liverpool - Winstanley

[erinb1983]

Hi everyone

I am looking for a John Winstanley who was born abt 1838 in Liverpool. He died in Australia in 1894 and his death certificate states his parents were named John Winstanley and Amelia. I have searched around and I can't find his parents anywhere. I am pretty sure Amelia is correct as his mother's name because he went onto use that name for his first born daughter.

If anyone could help that would be great.

Thanks
Erin

[heatherjulie]

Hi
Do you know when he arrived in Australia? Have you checked passenger lists to see if he was with a John and Amelia? Did he marry in Australia?

Heather

[Milliepede]

There are quite a few little John Winstanley's about in 1841 but I can't see any with mother Amelia 

Couple of family trees with him on but give different parents.  One John & Amelia and one Thomas & Margaret.

Same bride on both - Mary Irvine is that correct?

[heatherjulie]

Is this their first child?

Amelia Alice Winstanley

 
birth: 16 January 1870 
christening: 23 October 1875 All Saints, St. Kilda, Victoria, Australia
residence: 1870 St. Kilda, Victoria, Australia
 

[erinb1983]

Hi everyone

Sorry for the late reply, work always gets in the way of genealogy 

Amelia Alice was their third child, they had another daughter named Amelia May who was born and died in about 1865. Mary Irvine was his wife that is correct, they were married in Victoria, Australia in 1864. Heather, I have check the passenger lists but so far have not been able to find him, I only know he arrived before 1864 as that's when he was married in Australia. I have searched and searched but I have not been able to find any children born to a Amelia and John Winstanley in the Liverpool region at all.

Thanks everyone
Erin 

[ShaunJ]

How sure are you that he was from Liverpool?

[erinb1983]

Not 100% sure, he may have been born elsewhere.

[ShaunJ]

There's a Stanley family in Sheffield (Brightside Bierlow) in the 1861 census that might be worth looking at.

There's John aged 24 (so born 1836/7) born Hemsworth, with father John and mother Amelia. head of household is brother George. 

[garstonite]

There are quite a few little John Winstanley's about in 1841 but I can't see any with mother Amelia 

Couple of family trees with him on but give different parents.  One John & Amelia and one Thomas & Margaret.

Same bride on both - Mary Irvine is that correct?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JSVJ-SC3
there is this John Winstanley baptised march 1838 in Liverpool

there is also a John Winstanley born sept qtr 1838 in Liverpool on freebmd -  ...can we find him on the 1841 census to see who his parents were - maybe then we can see if we rule out this Liverpool born John