The Manse Old Monklands

[Forfarian]

As I said on this thread almost 3 years ago, https://www.ecclegen.com has the answer.

[ThumbelinaPM]

It's all rather confusing.

ecclegen gives details of Thomas Wilson but when I look at the fasti for him, it doesn't mention Old Monkland

[Forfarian]

If you look just above there, it says that Calderbank was disjoined from Old Monkland.

Easier to search by congregation in this case.

[sancti]

The original manse sat SW of church and was demolished before 1896. A new manse was built on present day Manse Avenue

[sancti]

From VR's

JOHNSTON
REVEREND MR
Proprietor Occupier
MANSE OLD MONKLAND
OLD MONKLAND
1855


BLACK
PETER CAMERON
REVEREND
Proprietor Occupier
MANSE OLD MONKLAND
OLD MONKLAND
1865


BLACK
PETER CAMERON
REVEREND
Proprietor Occupier
MANSE OLD MONKLAND
OLD MONKLAND
1875

[sancti]

Newspaper report suggests new manse was built c1882

[ThumbelinaPM]

Thank you all for info.

So as Calderbank was disjoined from Old Monkland  in 1885 ie after my ancestors were married in 1867 therefore I assume Thomas Wilson was still minister then.

[sancti]

BLACK
PETER CAMERON
REVEREND
Proprietor Occupier
MANSE OLD MONKLAND
OLD MONKLAND
1865

The above was still there in 1875 so would have been minister in 1867

The minister will be named on their marriage record. What was their address at time of marriage?

[Forfarian]

The page from Fasti that I posted says that Peter Cameron Black was minister of New Monkland from 1864 to 1894. As parish minister he would have lived in the parish manse.

Thomas Wilson was minister of Calderbank, which was disjoined from Old Monkland some years after his incumbency. He was not 'The Minister of Old Monkland' so he did not live in the parish manse of Old Monkland. He was minister at Calderbank from 1867 to 1869, when he was translated to Lesmagahow.

In the 1871 census Thomas Wilson, 32, minister of Lesmahagow 2nd charge, born East Kilbride, was a visitor in the household of William Shearer in Old Monkland. He was accompanied by his wife Elizabeth, 28, born Rutherglen.

As Sancti says, the name of the officiating minister, if it was a regular marriage, is always recorded on a marriage certificate.

Perhaps Rev Wilson, as minister of a subsidiary kirk in Rev Black's parish, was standing in for Rev Black while Rev Black was ill, or away from his parish.