Lambert Family from Dollar, Scotland to Pennsylvania, USA 1883.

[robert2fife]

I would welcome any information on the following in the USA. John, David, Robert and Alexander all arrived in the USA in 1883. They may have worked their passage, help welcome. At some time someone may have moved to Chicago. Alexander was the only one to return to the UK. He married Honorah Hogan in London, 6 September, 1902. He eventually returned to Scotland with Honorah and two of their sons.

1900 Census for Pennsylvania -

David Lambert – age 42 - Vol. 6, ED 94, Sheet 11, Line 24.
Birthplace – Dollar, Scotland.
1. Lanark, Allegheny
Boarder – with William Hopkins.

John Lambert – age 45 - Vol. 2, ED qw, Sheet 1, Line 79.
Birthplace – Dollar, Scotland.
126. McKain Alley, Allegheny.
Boarder – with Thomas Lauder.
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Census Microfilm Records: Pennsylvania, 1910
David Lambert -
Age: 52
Birthplace: Dollar, Scotland
State: Pennsylvania
County: ALLEGHENY
Locale: 25-WD PITTSBURGH
Series: T624, Roll: 1308, Part: 1, Page: 95B

Also found John and he is a single boarder as well. Looks like neither one married?

Census Microfilm Records: Pennsylvania, 1910
John Lambert
Age: 55
Birthplace: Dollar, Scotland
State: Pennsylvania
County: ALLEGHENY
Locale: 25-WD PITTSBURGH
Series: T624, Roll: 1307, Part: 3, Page: 207B

Could not find Robert's family in Pennsylvania perhaps they moved away?
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1900 Census for Pennsylvania - Vol. 8, ED 149, Sheet 1, Line 62.
Birthdate Age Place of Birth
Robert Lambert – Head - b. April 1859 age 41, Dollar, Scotland.
Hannah Wallace – Wife - b. June 1864 age 35, Pennsylvania
Robert - Son - b. May 1888 age12, Pennsylvania ( * ).
Albert - Son - b. 14 Aug. 1890 age 9, Pennsylvania
Mabel - Daughter -  b. May 1893  age 7, Pennsylvania
Robert Wallace - Father-in-Law - b. May 1830 age 70, Ireland
John Wallace - Brother-in-Law - b. Sept. 1871 age 28, Pennsylvania

Address at time – 3029 Mulbery Alley, Pittsburgh, Allegheny.
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1930 Census Pennsylvania -

Robert Lambert:-Head - age 41- married – age 24. (*).
Hunora Lambert:- Wife – age 39 – married - age 22

Address at 1930 census – 306 Mount Royal Boulevard, Shaler Township, Allegheny, Pennsylvania.

Robert was an Oil Refinery worker (Shipper)?

[Chattykathy]

Robert,  you have found a lot of base info, so trying to determine what you are specifically interested in pursuing so know where to start looking.

Looking for whereabouts of David and John Lambert in 1920 & 1930?  If they never married, may be very hard to identify them out of context

You say "Could not find Robert's family in Pennsylvania perhaps they moved away?" but proceed to list what looks to be them in 1900  ---  so you want to find them in 1910 on?  Or you are not sure this is really them in 1900 listing.

Is your Robert with middle name "Kirk" ?

Found a Robert Lambert on the Servia arr NY Jun 5, 1883 but did not find other brothers listed on same page or on page prior.  But you are lead to thinking they all came together in 1883.


1900 Cook Co, Chicago IL

     Robert D. Lambert       
     b. 1870 Scotland  Immi. 1892
     Day Laborer
     Boarder in Household of
     Henry Matthiss b. 1873 in Ger    M/F: Ger  Immi. Year 1875
     Wife Mary  b. 1873  in Scotland  MF: Scot  Immi. Year 1895

Think above Robert probably unrelated to your above group of
Lamberts but may some other connection.

Let me know if I've hit anything on the right track.

kathy

[robert2fife]

Kathy

The Robert I have middle name is "Kirk".

The full names of those who emigrated are as follows:-
Robert Kirk Lambert, b. 23 April 1859, Dollar, Scotland
David Law Lambert b. 25 July 1856, Dollar, Scotland
John Lambert b. 19 April 1855, Dollar, Scotland
Alexander Johnstone Lambert b. 13 June 1869, Dollar, Scotland.

If possible I would welcome information from the 1890 census for all, 1910 census for Robert and family, 1920 census all, 1930 census for all expert son Robert.

I have been told that they all went together to the USA in 1883.

I understand that the information I am looking for may be difficult to find. I hope the info above may be of help.

The Robert you have found is a different person, sorry to say.
 
Any info on those who stayed in the USA will be welcome.

Thank you for all your help.

Regards

Robert

[Chattykathy]

Hi Robert, 

Try these on and see how they fit.
Note:  Date problems  --  however in my own searches I have found a lot of date erros in US Census  whether enumerator's error or people giving wrong dates.  All the dates indicated I took from viewing the actual   --  not transcriptions --  so hope I didn't make the mistake!

There is no 1890 US census --  lost to fire/flood.

In 1883 only 54 Lamberts in database for having arrived in NY.
Only hit was the Robert I gave you previously.  But you say maybe "worked" their passage.  So don't know if they would show as passenger or crew.  If you think crew,  maybe somebody else on the board can answer how that might be recorded.  Also, not every passenger/ship transcribed.

Didn't look at map to see where Cuyahoga Co. is but Pennsylvania and Ohio are neighboring states.

1910 Cuyahoga Co., East Cleveland, OH     
North Lockwood Ave.
Alexander J. Lambert  41 <1869>  b. Scot  M/F: Scot  Marr 12 years <1898> Immi: 1890  Contractor Masonery
Wife Mary H.  (Helen?)  34 b. Ohio  F: NY  M: OH   Marr. 12 yrs <1898>   No children born or living
Mother-in-Law  Helen Scott (can’t read MI)  70 Widow b. OH  F: NY  M: CT  1 child born/1 child living

1920 Cuyahoga Co., East Cleveland, OH
Alexander Lambert 44 <1876> b. Scot  M/F: Scot   Immi: 1890 Natlz’d: 1896
Stone Mason
Wife Helen 30 b. Ohio   M/F: Ohio
Father David Lambert  84 <1836> b. Scot  M/F: Scot  Immi: 1905  No Naturalization
Forgot to Include in Orig. Post: 
Lodger  Ruthina Snyder 21 Single b. in OH  M/F: OH File Clerk

I'm pretty sure above same Alexander in dif years but notice birthdate problem.

1920 Cuyahoga Co., East Cleveland, OH
David Lambert 54 <1866>  b. Scot  Immi: 1889  Natlz’d:  1896  Machinist Tool Shop
Wife Agnes 53  <1867>  b. Scot  Immi:  1891  Natlz’d:  1891 or 6  (hard to read)
Ann S. ?   25   Ohio   Bookkeeper
Agnus S.   23   Ohio   Clerk
David Jr.   21   Ohio   Machinist
Alexander G. 18   Ohio   Machinist
James   14   Ohio   

1920 Cuyahoga Co., East Cleveland, OH
Garfield Road
Mary S. Lambert 58 <1862> Head of House  Widow b. in Scot  M/F: Scot   Immi: 1886 Natlz’d 1902  No profession
Dau Mary S. 21 Single b. Ohio Bookeeeper
Son David G.19 Single b. Ohio Salesman
Sister Agnes R. Stewart 67 <1853> Single b. in Scot  M/F: Scot   Immi: 1886 No Profession

1920 Allegheny Co., Pittsburgh, PA
Transcribed as “Daniel”  but actual looks like it could be “David”
Daniel/David?? Lambert  64 <1856> b. Scot  M/F: Scot  Immi:  1881  Natlz’d: 1887
Janitor @ Steel Co.   Boarder
Household of:
Mary Hoppin  60 Widow b. in Scot  MF: Scot  Immi: 1882  Natlz’d: 1884 or 1887
Dau Marry/Mary Hoppin 30  Single b. in PA  Stenographer @ Steel Co.

[Guy Etchells]

Not much help to you but as Dollar (where I spent most of my childhood) was a small village in 1881 there is a likelyhood of these being related to the ones you are searching for.

1881 Census, Scotland

Dwelling:   Carbo O T...
   Census Place:   Dollar, Clackmannan, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203535     GRO Ref    Volume 467    EnumDist 1    Page 5
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
David LAMBERT   M   59    M   Kinross, Kinross, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Baker (Journeyman)
Jane LAMBERT   M   52    F   Milnathort, Kinross, Scotland
   Rel:   Wife
   Occ:   Bakers Wife
Alexander LAMBERT       11    M   Dollar, Clackmannan, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Janet LAMBERT       7    F   Dollar, Clackmannan, Scotland
   Rel:   Dau
   Occ:   Scholar

Cheers
Guy

[Chattykathy]

Robert,  there has been a tree started on line for this family.  Should I asume that this tree is known to you and that there is no need to repost that info here or I can pm you with where to find it on your own?

Found 2nd son of Robert Kirk:
Albert Lambert
b. Aug 14, 1890
d. Mar 1981   postal code: 15224 Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA
ssn 192 03 8224 issued in PA b/4 1951

kathy

[robert2fife]

Kathy

The only one that seems possible is the 1920 census - David Lambert from Allegheny Co, Pittsburgh. The year of emigration I got was from the 1900 census.

Alexander had returned to the UK and married in 1902 London, England.

I have my family tree on a number of sites along with my own, check my interest section at the bottom.

It's most unfortunate that the 1890 census was lost in a fire as that one would have been the one that I am sure most would have been on.

All the best

Robert

I believe that my grandfather Alexander Lambert did take out nationalization when he was in the USA. That may well have been on the 1890 census. My grandfather was only 12 when he emigrated.




Thank for all the work.

[robert2fife]

Guy

Thanks for the info but I have all of this and a lot more. Check my interest section at the bottom. I have my family tree on a number of sites.

Thankyou again

Robert

[Chattykathy]

Robert,

So the only one that looks good is David, the life long bachelor!!  Great! 

So  David in 1900,  immigration year is 1883
but David in 1920 is showing 1881     but will consider this as the usual date error within acceptable range?  If so need to check 1881 and 1882 to see if they show up together on Passenger Lists.

Yes,  missing 1890 is a bummer to a lot of us!

kathy