Marriages - Whitehaven - Simpson

[scotmum]

GRO only list one Isabella Simpson birth in Whitehaven in 1840, with mother's maiden name noted as Brown. In 1844, they list a birth for a Margaret Simpson in Whitehaven, with mother's maiden name Brown.

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There is one Ann Simpson marriage in Whitehaven between 1841 and 1851, which could account for the Ann who was at home in 1841, but not there at 1851.

Similarly, there is one Margaret Simpson marriage in Whitehaven between 1851 and 1861, which albeit she would only be c15yrs, could account for Margaret after 1851.

update: probably not as she seems to have come from Gosforth

the Register Office, Whitehaven, Mr. Matthew Sanderson, miner, Egremont, to Miss Margaret Simpson, Gosforth

Not seeing anything further on Bridget.

Mother, Margaret possibly one of the 1852 deaths in the district.

I haven't had chance to check the above possibilities further yet, so any thoughts/input from anyone else having a read at this thread are welcomed.

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A quick look on familysearch re potential children to the 1824 George Simpson to Margaret Brown marriage throws up:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jq3/

for checking.

[Pammy22]

Oh dear, my George must be different from your George.  The info I have for him is:
Born Whitehaven about 1809.
Married to Catharine Hoare Oct 1847 in St Marylebone - he was a widower and a shoemaker and his father was Samuel Simpson, stonemason.
Died 1876 St George, Hanover Sq.
His first wife, Margaret died earlier in 1847 St James, Westminster.  She was born about 1816 - (not in Middx - lived Bethnal Green at time of 1841 census).  I don't think they had children.

So I haven't found his marriage to Margaret or his birth.  I presume your George's father is not Samuel.

Sorry for any confusion, I haven't really looked at this stem for some time.

[Geoff-E]

Tanzier Street

Tangier Street

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Tanzier Street

Tangier Street

Thanks Geoff-E, you win today's 'spot the spelling typo error' competition (unfortunately, there is no prize)  .

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Pammy22, I would certainly reckon you have picked up on the wrong 'George Simpson to a Margaret' marriage.

Looking at a couple of the census returns for 'your' George, I only see mention of Cumberland. Where did you see Whitehaven?

At this point, I don't know who 'the other' (likely 'my') George's father is, but certainly he himself seems a better fit for the George who married Margaret Brown.

I don't have a sub on Anc* at the moment, but it looks like someone there has a 'Simpson Family Tree' with George Simpson and Margaret Brown in Whitehaven. If anyone reading this thread has an Anc* sub, perhaps they could contact the tree owner and ask if they could have a look here.

[Pammy22]

Scotmum, the 1851 (they are in Warrington) & 1871 (back in Westminster) census both say George Simpson born Whitehaven.
The 1841 census has George Simpson and Margaret in Bethnal Green - neither were born in Middx. George's occupation is shoemaker or bootmaker on all census except 1871 where it is teacher.
His marriage certificate says his father is Samuel Simpson, stonemason.
He married a Margaret (1841 census), but I don't know her maiden name or date/place of marriage.
Obviously not the same couple as your George & Margaret.
So, still struggling with this particular stem. sigh ...

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OK, I've just looked at originals again and can see Whitehaven.

How odd that he is a teacher by 1871, unless it means he was teaching his shoe making skills.

The Margaret in the 1841 census is noted as aged 25, so c 1816 birth. This alone would have made her too young for the 1824 marriage, but then again her age may have been rounded down (http://durhamrecordsonline.com/updates/2010/09/added-explanation-of-1841-census-age-rounding/ )., albeit even if it was, it would still have meant she was fairly young).

Did 'your' George state he was a widower at all on his marriage to Catherine?

If the 1841 George is the same chap, then given he was so far from his home area, and given the 9 or so yrs age difference between him and Margaret, perhaps he married her after moving down to Bethnal Green, or indeed anywhere between leaving Whitehaven and settling 'down south', albeit there isn't snything jumping out, other than possibly one over Newcastle direction..