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smith,elrington,assender,mcinnes
« on: Monday 24 February 14 06:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi im new here  and also relatively new at researching my family tree. Have found quite a bit of information on trove and state bdms but we are stuck on a number of lines. Here goes - our gggfather william henry smith c1831 prob england-no shipping records- spent time in victoria - ?married louisa rebecca elrington ,?had 1 or 2 children before going to NZ , i have found 7 children born there 1864-1878 with 1 death. 2 of the children have elrington as their middle names although spelt incorrectly-ebrington/elvington. What is bugging me is 2children have assender being, HENRY JOSEPH ASSENDER SMITH 1865 and ELIZA ASSENDER SMITH. where does assender come from? We know Eliza married and lived in NSW and Henry supposedly married MARGARET ANN SMYTH(cant find a marriage or anything about her either) and lived  in WA . We think they lived in the Otago area and one of them Benjamin stayed in NZ while the rest came to Perth sometime prior to William Henry dying in 1899. So where does Assender come from and also Louisa Rebecca Elrington - we ?think she was the one on the Navarino to SA , she was recorded as being from Guernsey, we have found her on the census-if it is her- how would we know? There was also a Tamson Elrington and a Lucy at the same address in St Peters Port , 1841. I hope that makes some sense- and thankyou
Smith, Assender, Elrington,Mcinnes, Stone, Wreford,Smyth

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Re: smith,elrington,assender,mcinnes
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 February 14 13:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Molly_P,

If you purchase a copy of the SMITH/ELRINGTON marriage certificate it will give you their ages, places of birth and parents' names, including mothers' maiden surnames.  You can then look for them on census records if they were born in the UK.  Images of historical certificates can be downloaded from the Vic BDM website once you have paid.  http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/family+history+certificates/  (Choose "uncertified images")

If you list their known children with their dates of birth and where you think they lived we can try to help track them down

People give their children unusual middle names for lots of different reasons.  My lot did not only use family names but also surnames of friends, commanding officers in the military, ships and places.  As you continue your search the meaning behind the ASSENDER name will probably come to light.

Debra  :)

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Re: smith,elrington,assender,mcinnes
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 February 14 20:42 GMT (UK) »
The 1851 census shows that Tamson was Louisa's mother (stated to be married though no husband in sight either in 1841 or 1851) and Louisa had two sisters, Lucy and Lydia, all 3 girls born in England, though I can't see a birth/baptism record for any of them  ???
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Re: smith,elrington,assender,mcinnes
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 February 14 23:27 GMT (UK) »

Western Mail 4 Jun 1904
MRS. L. R. SMITH,
The funeral of Mrs. Louisa Rebecca Smith, relict of the late Mr. William Henry Smith (who predeceased her some! four years and a half), took place yesterday afternoon, and was largely attended. The remains, which were enclosed in a massive jarrah casket, with heavy black , and gold mountings, were interred in the Church of England Cemetery, Karrakatta. The Rev. W. F. Marshall officiated at the graveside.

The pall-bearers were  Messrs James Todd, A. Bragg, T. Game, and R'. Williams.
The chief mourners were : Mr. H. J. A. Smith and Mr. E. F. Smith, sons ;Mrs. H. C. Davies and Mrs. N. Russell, daughters; Mrs. H. J. A. Smith, daughter-in-law; and Mr, N Russell, son-in-law.


At Karrakatta Cemetery  AA / 270

William Henry SMITH    d. 12 Nov 1899  68yrs
Louisa Rebecca SMITH  d. 30 May 1904  65yrs
Henry Joseph Assender SMITH d. 23 Dec 1914  47yrs

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RUSSELL: On Aug. 21. 1954. at Perth. Waltina Mary, the dearly loved wife of the late Nicol Russell, dearly loved mother of Louie (Mrs. Creech). Lii (Mrs. Flanagan) and Tom (South Africa). grandmother of Pat, Kona and Trevor. great-grandmother of ****** and *****; aunt of Eileen (Mrs. Cope); aged 82 years.


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Re: smith,elrington,assender,mcinnes
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 February 14 23:37 GMT (UK) »

The West Australian 12 Nov 1900
(In Memoriam for William henry SMITH d. 12 Nov 1899)

SMITH    ......... loving daughters, W. Russell and L. Davies.

SMITH ....... loving daughters, L. Wheatley (Adelaide) and E. Neale (Sydney).

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 February 14 00:12 GMT (UK) »
They were in Victoria before moving to WA?

Western Mail 9 Dec 1898
DAVIES-SMITH.-On November 30, at the residence of the bride's parents, by the Rev. Thos. 
E. Peters, HENRY CLARANCE, eldest son of the late Mr. Henry Davies, of Cardiff, Wales, to LYDIA AGNES (Lillie), youngest daughter of Mr.W. H. Smith, contractor, Victoria House, Park-street, Subiaco, Western Australia (late of North Fitzroy, Victoria). 
 

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 February 14 01:43 GMT (UK) »

The West Australian 31 Dec 1914
SMITH.-On December 23. at Perth, of pneumonia, Harry, the dearly  beloved husband of Margaret Smith, and beloved father of Harry, Hetty, Charles, Arthur, and Dorothy Smith, of Stone-street, West Perth.....
brother of William (Bartrille, W.A.). Benjamin (Dunedin, N.Z.), Edward (Maylands. SA.), Alfred (Perth. W.A.), Mrs. L. L. Wheatley (Karalee, W.A), Mrs. A. S Neale (Tambar. Springs, N.S.W.). Mrs.   Nicol Russell and Mrs. Davies (Subiaco), aged 46 years.

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 February 14 03:16 GMT (UK) »
Death on NSW BDM http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/

NEALE Eliza Assender  father William mother Louisa at Waverley in 1943 reg 6303/1943

Death notice  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17838298
NEALE. - February 24, 1943, at a private hospital, Eliza Assender Neale, dearly beloved 
mother of ...

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Adding : Eliza Assender SMITH married Augustus Alf NEALE in 1889 in Victoria reg 3812
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Re: smith,elrington,assender,mcinnes
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 February 14 22:06 GMT (UK) »
hello and thankyou to all,
- I will order a marriage certificate hopefully today.Interesting about the using of middle names - i wondered if the use of Evrington and Ebrington could possibly have been place names. We have quite a bit of  info mainly through Trove, luckily some of the notices are detailed.
This is names we have so far

SMITH William Henry d 1899 age 68 (i have just rechecked wa online index and says father BENJAMIN mother unknown POB London ) (Milliepede on Channel island  lookups has just found a possible)

SMITH Louisa Rebecca d1904 age 65 (father William mother unkown Louisa POB Guernsey Channel Islands

marriage (online index Vic) William Henry Smith - Louisa Rebecca EBRINGTON
1856-1857 (will order cert)

SMITH William Henry: 1857/58  F/William Henry M/ Louisa EBVINGTON                 
*SMITH Benjamin : 1861/62  F/William Henry   M/ Louisa ELRINGTON
Smith, Assender, Elrington,Mcinnes, Stone, Wreford,Smyth