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« on: Wednesday 26 February 14 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Hello,I am trying to find any information about my G Grandfather,Frederic Scofield Smith who was born in Todmorden in about 1849?.I  only know he moved to Matlock in Derbyshire when he married my G Grandmother Kate Burcumshaw in about1880s. I have not been able to find neither his birth certificate or their marriage certificate. Thankyou.

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Re: todmorden
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 February 14 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Welcome to Rootschat.  Could Fred have been a nickname?  There are a few family trees online that have him dying on 13th October, 1909.  Would this be correct?  The only death I could find was for an Edward Schofield Smith registered Bakewell Dec. Qtr. 1909 and a burial of Edward Schofield Smith in Darley on 16th October, 1909.  This may explain why we can`t find on any early census.

I will go and see if I can find an Edward.
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Re: todmorden
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 February 14 15:02 GMT (UK) »
And welcome from me, too.

1901 - RG13/3266 folio 47 page 5
Rycroft, Darley, Derbyshire
Fred Smith 52
Kate 36
Ernest 18
William 11
Percy 6
Bertha 4
Lily 3   plus William Bircumshaw 66 = Lodger

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 February 14 15:13 GMT (UK) »
A bit iffy, but:

Kate Bircumshaw and Thomas Frederic Shipman appear on the same page - Nottingham Registration District 7b page 659 - December quarter 1882 page number for Kate has been mistranscribed, so ignore that.

In the same quarter, and District, on page 559 Kate Bircumshaw appears with Harriett Beedham/Bedlham, Frank Hardy and William Rasin.

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Re: todmorden
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 February 14 15:34 GMT (UK) »
1881 - Heanor, Derbyshire RG11/3324 folio 125 page 9
William Bircumshaw - 45 widower
Joseph 22
Kate 15
William 14
Albert 11
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 February 14 15:40 GMT (UK) »
1871 - RG10/3480 folio 38, page 28 - Longley Mill Road, Heanor
William Bircumshaw - 35
Ann - 35
Joseph 12
Kate 5
William 3
Albert 1

June quarter 1865 - Basford Registration District, 7b page 115 - birth of Kate Bircumshaw

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Re: todmorden
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 February 14 17:23 GMT (UK) »
There was a Frederick Smith baptised at St Paul's Church, Cross Stone Todmorden on 29th September 1851, child of a Jonas Smith ( a weaver) and his wife Lydia -oddly enough they seem to have lived in Accrington, a fair walk away as the valleys wind. Could that be anything to do with your Frederick?
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 February 14 17:31 GMT (UK) »
There's also a census entry for 1851 in Todmorden for a Frederick Scholfield, born in 1851, son of an ironmoulder, Richard, and his wife Elizabeth Scholfield, living in the Salford area of the town, where there was at least one forge. that may be a possibility for you?
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 February 14 17:42 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if this marriage is significant:
28/1/1821 Todmorden
John Smith = Sarah Scholfield.
Possibly parents of Jonas or Richard.

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