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Offline Jim100

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Possible Swedish 4XGGps
« on: Thursday 27 February 14 12:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Looking for some help on 4xGGPs who came to UK from Sweden probably between 1810 & 1816.

I have discovered that my 3xGGM (Matilda Caroline b 1819 in Portsea Hampshire) was the daughter of an Andrew Peter & Hannah Cecilia Lynch in Portsea. Andrew Peter Lynch died young in 1828 (Portsea) but HC lived on for many years and is recorded in 1841 census as being born in Foreign Parts and in the 1851 census as being born in Sweden.
I have found a marriage record for an Andrew Peter Lindh and Anna Cecilia Bergren in Portsea in 1816. Is this couple my 4xGGPs? and did they anglicise their surname after marriage (also Anna becomes Hannah). A son Charles Frederik Lindh is born to Andrew Peter & Anna Cecilia Lindh in 1817 but I can find no other trace of him and them my 3xGGM is born in 1819 to Andrew Peter & Hannah Cecilia Lynch. It seems too much of a coincidence that this isn't the same family especially as seem to have been based in Portsea throughout their lives (short life in the case of Andrew). In the 1841 census there is also an Andrew Lynch aged 15 which I am assuming(!) is the son of Hannah and sister of Matilda (also living with Hannah). I have been unable to find a birth record for an Andrew Lynch though.

All of this rambling leads me to believe that both Andrew and Anna(Hannah) were Swedish born. Is there any way of tracking down their emigration from Sweden or Immigration to UK.

I thought about buying the 1816 marriage record but in those days details of origin and father was not generally recorded as there was no requirement.

Any help gratefully received as always.

Jim
Turner (Chobham, Surrey area), Thirlwell, Bishop, Baigent, Cadwell, Prisgrove, Spooner, Skipper, Sergeant (Sargent),  Fisher, Heather, Cox, Terry, Lewis, Lynch (Lindh), Perrett, Daniels, Hooper, Kerr,  Gaukrodger,  Hesseltine, Holland
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Re: Possible Swedish 4XGGps
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 February 14 12:48 GMT (UK) »
You can order copies of the 1816 marriage free of charge from
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0y5c/


You can take the details they need from these links (it might be worth requesting a copy from both in case the information is from different sources )
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFPK-ZJV
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N24R-YQB

They will take a few weeks to arrive though.

ADDED  I think that you could be right though   ;D
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Re: Possible Swedish 4XGGps
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 February 14 00:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I have found a couple in Sweden with the same names. The thing is, is that this couple were married in Sweden. What do you think? Perhaps they got remarried in England for some reason.

It says.... Musician And: Pet: Lind with Housemaid Anna Coecilia Berggren.



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Re: Possible Swedish 4XGGps
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 February 14 01:01 GMT (UK) »
They also had a daughter Mathilda Charlotta born 14 Feb 1811...





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Re: Possible Swedish 4XGGps
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 February 14 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Anna Cecilia was 23 years old in 1811 at the birth of Mathilda.

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Re: Possible Swedish 4XGGps
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 February 14 01:48 GMT (UK) »
Anders could have been in the army or the navy. I think he could have been in the navy as this would have made it easier to move over to England.

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Re: Possible Swedish 4XGGps
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 February 14 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks both @Rosie and @JamCat for your prompt replies. I shall order the certificate Rosie.

Jamcat that is an interesting find BUT is it the correct couple? The ages would appear to be about right but I wonder why they would have remarried. I agree that Navy is a likely occupation as it would also explain them ending up in Portsea (Portsmouth). If it is the same couple then the daughter born in Sweden may well have died young as my 3xGGM had the same first name and that usually indicates death of the earlier sibling of the same name. It's a great clue. Where to next I wonder??

Thanks once again.
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Re: Possible Swedish 4XGGps
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 February 14 12:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I will look further into this family. I forgot to mention that they lived in the Royal Admiralty parish of Karlskrona which means that he was most probably in the navy.

Ian

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Re: Possible Swedish 4XGGps
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 February 14 18:05 GMT (UK) »
Since Matilda was christened in 1819, the original baptism record should give you her father's occupation, which might help.
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