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Re: Great Yarmouth marriage 1795
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 March 14 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annette7. I had thought the same myself about his Scottish origins, and his year of birth is abt 1761 (calc from age at death). I had noted the same baptism as a possibility although it was a year later.  I did try posting on the relevant Scottish board to see if anyone could trace the Kenneth Fowler born there. If there was marriage and death for him in Scotland, he could be ruled out. But no-one had any information unfortunately. 
I wondered whether there might be a clue to Kenneth's parents in the children's names. He named his third son James but no daughter Margaret. The name Isabella seems to keep recurring. Kenneth's 3rd daughter was Isabella and two of his sons (James and Charles) named a daughter Isabella. Then Charles's daughter Charlotte named her eldest daughter (my grandmother) Isabel.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Great Yarmouth marriage 1795
« Reply #10 on: Monday 02 September 19 12:21 BST (UK) »
Five years later...
Did get the image and it was the date of the last reading of banns, not marriage date, then browsed through images of marriages in that church for the following year - no luck.
Then today - breakthrough
Marriage of Kenneth Fowler and Mary Ann Nile on 14 Jan 1796 in Colchester, Essex - transcript on Freereg.

Kenneth was in the Royal (Garrison) Artillery, so could he have been posted to Colchester briefly, then back to Great Yarmouth where first child baptised on 22 Dec 1796 (born 6 Dec). Surely banns would have to be read again as it was a different parish or they would have to be married by licence. The Great Yarmouth banns said botp.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Great Yarmouth marriage 1795
« Reply #11 on: Monday 02 September 19 15:28 BST (UK) »
Five years later...
 Surely banns would have to be read again as it was a different parish or they would have to be married by licence. The Great Yarmouth banns said botp.

Banns for both parties would be read in both parishes for the Bride and the groom. So if Mary Ann was an incumbent of Great Yarmouth St Nicholas parish her set of banns would have been read out there.
The grooms would probably been read out in the Colchester church on the same Sundays. It may be worth checking for banns there too.

There is a set of Essex banns for Kennith Fowler and Mary Nile on Ances but I don't have a sub at the moment.
http://tiny.cc/jch3bz
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Re: Great Yarmouth marriage 1795
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02 September 19 15:32 BST (UK) »
Five years later...
 Surely banns would have to be read again as it was a different parish or they would have to be married by licence. The Great Yarmouth banns said botp.

Banns for both parties would be read in both parishes for the Bride and the groom. So if Mary Ann was an incumbent of Great Yarmouth St Nicholas parish her set of banns would have been read out there.
The grooms would probably been read out in the Colchester church on the same Sundays. It may be worth checking for banns there too.

Both bride and groom were from Great Yarmouth according to 1795 Banns.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Great Yarmouth marriage 1795
« Reply #13 on: Monday 02 September 19 15:46 BST (UK) »
But if they were getting married in Colchester banns would be read there too. The a link is there for someone to check.
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Loome/lombe Norfolk

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Re: Great Yarmouth marriage 1795
« Reply #14 on: Monday 02 September 19 16:00 BST (UK) »
Banns register for Colchester St Peters is not available on line and the marriage register only gives the couple's names and date of marriage - no mention of Banns or licence and no names of witnesses
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Great Yarmouth marriage 1795
« Reply #15 on: Monday 02 September 19 16:02 BST (UK) »
Just seen there's 2 books covering the same period. the one I just looked at seemed like just a transcript of marriages and christenings.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Great Yarmouth marriage 1795
« Reply #16 on: Monday 02 September 19 16:10 BST (UK) »
This is very odd, the marriage register goes from Decembery 1795 to April 1796. My couple's marriage isn't there.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Great Yarmouth marriage 1795
« Reply #17 on: Monday 02 September 19 16:16 BST (UK) »
This is very odd, the marriage register goes from Decembery 1795 to April 1796. My couple's marriage isn't there.

forget that I had the wrong year, the image is rather small on my screen
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott