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Can anyone help please?
« on: Wednesday 19 March 14 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Just wondering if someone could help please. I'm trying to help a relative of my husband.

I'm looking for information on James Wilkie Clement, born 27 March 1893 (in Glasgow we think).  He didn't join up till 1917 (when he would have been 24) and was sent to Ireland "to fight the Black and Tans" - but the Black and Tans were the British Army, and didn't come into being till after WW1.
I will attach two photos. You will see there is a fairly big age discrepancy between the 2 attached photos. Does anyone know which Regiments they are?  The older one with the moustache, is dated Feb. 1918, and was taken in Newbridge, co. Kildare, Ireland.   
I've been told that he joined the Fife & Forfar Yeomanry, but have had no luck in tracing him that way.
 
Thank you.

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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 March 14 13:28 GMT (UK) »
Sorry,

for some reason it won't allow me to attach the photos :-(

can anyone help with any other information please?

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 March 14 15:23 GMT (UK) »
hi
it looks like some family tales have got mixed up on the way down the line , the black and tans were recruited as a temporary force of constables to assist the ric, royal irish constabulary ,in 1919 many were ex service men and some irish as well .
as to james wilkie clement I,ve looked for a service record for him but I can,t see one nor even a medal index card .
so if you could post the pics and especially before you do if any cap badges or shoulder flashes are quite clear can you enhance them as mostly that's what folk go by in recognition .
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 March 14 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Your photos need to be below the file limit of 500kbs...If you try again..you will need to rename the files a little...maybe just add a letter to the file name.
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 March 14 08:38 GMT (UK) »
Hopefully you can see these........

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 March 14 08:43 GMT (UK) »
Here's a better one of the first photo.......

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 March 14 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Churchill sent the Black and Tans to Ireland in 1920 so if the photo was taken in 1918 in Kildare it is most likely he was a member of the British Army stationed at The Curragh Camp in Kildare.
He would not have been fighting against them as they were recruited as back up to the Army and R I C.
Speaking as an Irishman The Tans were just a shower of lawless thugs sent over to cause mayhem in this country their conduct was disgraceful.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 March 14 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi, 1st / 3rd photograph he is wearing the uniform of the Royal Artillary.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 March 14 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for all your help.  :D

Anymore help would be much appreciated  :P