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Address given: Tosberhin ???
« on: Monday 31 March 14 22:07 BST (UK) »
Anyone with insight into where Tosberhin is?

It was listed as the "Address" of both the bride and groom in a marriage record for St. Mary's Parish, City of Kilkenny in 1822

Michael Fitzpatrick
Mary Quigly
21-Feb-1822

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Re: Address given: Tosberhin ???
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 April 14 15:18 BST (UK) »

Can you post a small extract?

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Re: Address given: Tosberhin ???
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 April 14 15:25 BST (UK) »
Rosbercon I guess  :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosbercon

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Re: Address given: Tosberhin ???
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 April 14 15:56 BST (UK) »
I've attached a snip of what the indexed information is that mentions Tosberhin.  Perhaps it was misspelled from the original document? Or, if the folks doing the transcribing knew the area well, they may have spelled it precisely. Also, I don't know if it refers to a street, a pasture, a corner, a building, etc. 

Any chance this couple was actually from the countryside and came to the city to get married and that Tosberhin refers to a place outside of the city (or did couples at that time marry only at their local parish).  What does it mean that both bride and groom's address is Tosberhin?

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Re: Address given: Tosberhin ???
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 April 14 04:35 BST (UK) »
Ah, I thought you were working off the original script and that we could attempt to decipher it.

Almost certainly misspelled / mistranscribed.

In truth then, it could be absolutely anything. My best guess, based on what is transcribed, is that it might be either Talbotshill or possibly Talbotsinch. But you really need to see the original.

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Re: Address given: Tosberhin ???
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 April 14 06:52 BST (UK) »
Perhaps it was misspelled from the original document? Or, if the folks doing the transcribing knew the area well, they may have spelled it precisely. Also, I don't know if it refers to a street, a pasture, a corner, a building, etc. 

Any chance this couple was actually from the countryside and came to the city to get married and that Tosberhin refers to a place outside of the city (or did couples at that time marry only at their local parish).  What does it mean that both bride and groom's address is Tosberhin?

The transcription work was done by people who wouldn’t have been familiar with every location in Ireland and that, combined with poor handwriting, means  transcription mistakes are quite common. You need to see the original to try to work out the correct location. (There’s a copy in the National Library in Dublin).

At least one of the couple normally had to be resident in the parish where the marriage took place. If both gave the same townland (address) then that suggests they lived near each other.
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Re: Address given: Tosberhin ???
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 April 14 11:07 BST (UK) »
Might help - Townlands ending in -rin- in Co Kilkenny from Sean Ruad townland database.
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http://www.thecore.com/ireatlas/
Ballycurrin       348   Kilkenny   Ida   Listerlin   New Ross   Leinster
Coolierin       127   Kilkenny   Gowran   Graiguenamanagh   Thomastown   Leinster
Tullaherin       759   Kilkenny   Gowran   Tullaherin   Thomastown   Leinster
Tullowbrin       984   Kilkenny   Gowran   Rathcoole   Kilkenny   Leinster
annclare
Kerrisk, Healy, McGuire, Duggan - Kerry and US
Tuohy/Toohey,Gorman, Purcell, Fanning- Holycross Tipperary

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Re: Address given: Tosberhin ???
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 April 14 18:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks all for the leads.
As it happens, I am making my first trip to Ireland in a few weeks and plan to devote some time at the National Library. Perhaps I'll have the opportunity to see a scan of the actual document. If I can get a copy, I will post it here for folks to help decipher.

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Re: Address given: Tosberhin ???
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 April 14 23:45 BST (UK) »
How about Tober----, a well!

Skoosh.