Reginald Howard Claybrook

[Strapper77]

If Howard was already in the family nameing pattern then forget about my first post, Reg's dad could be anyone.

He probab;y put his age up for the army or didn't know correct year, more likely. Odd that Grandmother is fined for fostering family? Is this the same child Cando do you think.

Neil

Modified.....DOH...1906, just ignore me

Haha now you can understand our frustration!

[cando]

 

That's what we've always said about his father.  Perhaps a soldier either Australian or otherwise.  Thank you.

Certainly a possibility and perhaps he was KIA.  Elma didn't marry until 1921.

It would appear the surname has been spelt both GULYRD and GULYARD
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=gulyrd
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=gulyard

Marriage
GULYRD Leonard  29 years  Status single  Father Dominico GULYRD
CLAYBROOK Elma Marion  22  Status single  Father Arthur Henry CLAYBROOK
10 Sep 1921
At St Pauls Church Port Adelaide  PtA S 288/744

Death in Victoria

GULYRD Leonard
Father Gagliardi Domi  Mother Lucia  UNKNOWN
At Melbourne  76 years  1966  Reg#4098

You can purchase Victorian certificates online [$20] and immediately download
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

I note that in a number of birth notices that Emma Marion is named Marion and she is named as NOK [sister] on Reginald war service file which has been digitised.  Parents dead!!  All rather odd when his parents were still living in Perth at the time he enlisted. Marion was legally his NOK anyway.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NAAMedia/ShowImage.asp?B=6469078&S=2&T=R
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NAAMedia/ShowImage.asp?B=6469078&S=4&T=P

Cando

Edit to add links

[cando]

You possibly have this information.  Certainly understandable that Arthur and Harriet were noted as parents if they were living in WA by 1925 and possibly took Reginald with them.

Deaths in WA
CLAYBROOK Arthur Henry  81 years
Father William Mother Polly
District Perth  1956  Reg#2005

Cremation record and ashes scattered
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00011081
   
CLAYBROOK Harriett Ann  79 years
Father George  Mother Marion
District Perth 1955  Reg#802   

Cremation Record and ashes taken
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00009465

Australian Electoral Roll
1925
CLAYBROOK Arthur Henry  Guildford Road  Bayswater  Florist
CLAYBROOK Harriett Ann  Guildford Road  Bayswater  HD

1931
CLAYBROOK Arthur Henry 17 Cross Street Swanbourne  Flower maker
CLAYBROOK Harriett Ann 17 Cross Street  Swanbourne  HD

1936, 1937, 1943, 1949, 1954
CLAYBROOK Arthur Henry 13 Lynton Street, Swanbourne  Labourer
CLAYBROOK Harriett Ann  13 Lynton Street, Swanbourne  HD

Cando

[Strapper77]

Did you also notice in his army records that he's signed his name as R Howard?  The whole thing is odd.

[cando]

I think there was confusion all around.  Differing dates, names, strike outs as well.  It suggests to me that the clerk was firing questions at him when he first gave the surname....or was it the surname by which he was known...if so how could Marion GULYARD be his "sister".  I do wonder if he ever knew his true origins.    His birth date was obviously questioned as it is correct in later documentation.  There are more documents in the file post 1971 and noted in 2002. Documents cannot be released within 30 years so it may be worth purchasing the file.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NAAMedia/ShowImage.asp?B=6469078&S=15&T=P

Cando

[Strapper77]

Yeah the whole thing is odd.  Just wish we knew!!  I don't know if he knew...

[cando]

What is it you wish you knew?

Cando

[Strapper77]

Who his actual father was.

[Reg Claybrook]

Its a mystery about wether the old man knew who his real parents were.