What is this document?

[brianz]

Can anyone explain what this document is? ( It is on Ancestry)

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2052/32512_a063442-00894/754575?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3frank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-g%26gsfn%3djames%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln%3dhannam%26msydy%3d1693%26msypn__ftp%3dLondon%252c%2bEngland%26msypn%3d5274%26msypn_PInfo%3d7-%257c0%257c0%257c3257%257c3251%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c5274%257c0%257c0%257c%26gskw%3dhabadasher%26cpxt%3d1%26catBucket%3drstp%26uidh%3dmj4%26cp%3d11%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26h%3d754575%26recoff%3d4%2b5%2b20%26db%3dLondonFreedomofCity%26indiv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3d15&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

Thanks

[groom]

It's from the "London, England, Freedom of the City Admission Papers, 1681-1925"

If you click on the search page for that  http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2052 at the bottom it explains what they are and what they contain.

[jess5athome]

Hi, I could be totally wrong ................ But it looks to me as if it is granting someone the freedom of the city because his father is already a freeman of the city.
No doubt someone in the know will be along to confirm if I am correct or not.

Regards.
Frank.

[groom]

The link I gave explains it fully, Frank.

[brianz]

Thanks groom
                     That link explains what they are, what I was interested in was the date 1693 to which they have added 36 and totalled it to make 1729. Are these dates of admission or dates of birth or what?, any thoughts.

[KGarrad]

Still applicable today, there is information here:
http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/about-the-city/history-and-heritage/Pages/freedom-of-the-city.aspx

Click on "How to Apply".
There are several ways to apply for the Freedom: by servitude (for apprentices who have served a full apprenticeship to a Freeman), by patrimony (for children of Freemen – provided one parent was a Freeman prior to the applicant’s birth), by nomination or by presentation via a Livery Company.


Your chaps would have been members of The Haberdashers Livery Company www.haberdashers.co.uk

It's possible they may have more info?

[Bookbox]

what I was interested in was the date 1693 to which they have added 36 and totalled it to make 1729. Are these dates of admission or dates of birth or what?, any thoughts.

A son could be admitted to Freedom by patrimony (as here) only if his father had been admitted to Freedom before the son was born.

To validate this, the father’s date of admission is checked in the relevant register and recorded here (16 Feb 1693). As a double-check, the age of the son who is applying for admission (36) is then added to the year of the father’s admission (1693), to ensure that the total (1729) comes to less than the current year (1744).

This is done to confirm that the son is telling the truth about his age, and that he was indeed born after his father’s admission.

[brianz]

Thanks KGarrad and Bookbox it makes sense now. An interesting document and more avenues to search.