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Ckeck on USA in-coming passenger lists
« on: Thursday 15 July 04 03:39 BST (UK) »
Good moring,
Hoping someone would be kind enough to check the USA passenger lists for
Joseph SOUTHWELL born 1821 Cambridgeshire, UK, married in 1851 to Jane MORTAR/MORER in Ohio, USA.
Apprears next on 1855 cenus of Lodi, Wisconsin, Columbia County, USA
Also:
His parents and sister: Robert & Betty (Elizabeth) SOUTHWELL and Sarah SOUTHWELL all followed Joseph to USA.
Robert born 1798 Cambs, UK; Betty born (?), Sarah born 1834 Cambs, UK.                                                                                                       (They  last appear on the 1851 census of Cambs, then appear on the 1860 Wisconsin USA census)

Any help - most appreciated,
Cheers
Deb Francis
Southwell of March, Doddington. Wimblington, Cambridgeshire, Lancashire,  Australia & USA
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Re: Ckeck on USA in-coming passenger lists
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 July 04 19:06 BST (UK) »
I went on to the Ellis Island website and managed to find the entry for when my great uncle went to America in 1907. You can get a copy of the ship's manifesto showing the entry if you are lucky enough to find it. Web site address is www.ellisislandrecords.org/search. Best of luck.

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Re: Ckeck on USA in-coming passenger lists
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 July 04 18:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Tresa
Unfortunately, I have had no luck in finding either Joseph or Jane on any passenger lists to which I have access.

The 1860 US census states that their daughter Mary (10), and their son Charles (8) were born in NY, so that helps verify the dates you have.

Incidentally, the family moved to Nebraska by the 1870 census.  I was hoping to find 1900 census for Joseph (stretching it..I know  :))which would have provided an arrival date, though not always correctly entered but not there.

I checked the 1885 Nebraska State census, and neither parents were on it, though several of their children, with their families were. 

Anyhow, I am sorry I could not help with the arrival date, but if you need any further details on the above, please let me know.

Regards,
Valerie
Bayley, Dorset, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cheshire and others.
Antrobus, Somerset/Glouster
Skelton, Heslington, Yorkshire
James, Norfolk, and London
Delasalle, London area
Gravett/Grevet, Surrey
Also searching the above in Australia

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Re: Ckeck on USA in-coming passenger lists
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 July 04 05:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Valerie,  ;)
Thanks for all your efforts -  Re the 1860 census (as below) I have Mary Jane Southwell born circa 1852 and Robert Charles Southwell born 1853 in Ohio. so seems to be about right.  Are there any more children mentioned as I have William, Thomas, Sarah, Milton & Carrie listed as siblings to Mary & Robert.

 :-*If possible could you send the details of the Southwell family on the 1870 Nebraska census and the 1885 Nebraska State Census - chilren and their families?

Many thanks
Deb    :D
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Hi Tresa
Unfortunately, I have had no luck in finding either Joseph or Jane on any passenger lists to which I have access.

The 1860 US census states that their daughter Mary (10), and their son Charles (8) were born in NY, so that helps verify the dates you have.

Incidentally, the family moved to Nebraska by the 1870 census.  I was hoping to find 1900 census for Joseph (stretching it..I know  :))which would have provided an arrival date, though not always correctly entered but not there.

I checked the 1885 Nebraska State census, and neither parents were on it, though several of their children, with their families were. 

Anyhow, I am sorry I could not help with the arrival date, but if you need any further details on the above, please let me know.

Regards,
Valerie
Southwell of March, Doddington. Wimblington, Cambridgeshire, Lancashire,  Australia & USA
Shoesmith of Sussex and Australia

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Re: Ckeck on USA in-coming passenger lists
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 July 04 07:42 BST (UK) »
1870 Census, Burt County, Everett, Neb.
Joseph Southwell, 48, Eng.
Jane, 42, Eng.
William, 14, Wisc.
Sarah, 12, Wisc.
Son, 10, Wisc. (I could not make the name out, very bad).
Cora, 1, Wisc.

Must have just arrived in Nebraska.

I could not find them on newer census.

Hoka.

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Re: Ckeck on USA in-coming passenger lists
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 July 04 15:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb
The 1860 Wisconsin census, which I think you already have, shows:
Joseph 38, b England
Jane, 35, b England
Mary, 10, b NY
Charles 8, b NY
Thomas 6, b WI
William, 4, b WI
Sarah 3, b WI

Hoka has kindly provided you with the 1870.  I believe the sons name that could not be read is Miles.

I'll post further with 1885 Nebraska state census.

Regards,
Valerie
Bayley, Dorset, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cheshire and others.
Antrobus, Somerset/Glouster
Skelton, Heslington, Yorkshire
James, Norfolk, and London
Delasalle, London area
Gravett/Grevet, Surrey
Also searching the above in Australia

“Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 July 04 15:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

1885 Nebraska State Census does not provide an image, so I stayed within Burt County.

Southwell
S.A. (Sarah?), 24, b Wisconsin, living Village of Decatur, Burt Cty.
It does not indicate that she was living with other family members.

Wilson, 2, born Wisconsin
Carrie, 16, b Nebraska...living Everett Precinct, Burt

William, 34, b Okesernsm (sic) perhaps this is Oshkosh.
Mary 50 b Iowa
Eva 3, b Nebraska
Selia, 4, b Nebraska 

Hope this helps
Valerie       
All living in Village of Oakland, Burt, Nebraska
Bayley, Dorset, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cheshire and others.
Antrobus, Somerset/Glouster
Skelton, Heslington, Yorkshire
James, Norfolk, and London
Delasalle, London area
Gravett/Grevet, Surrey
Also searching the above in Australia

“Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Ckeck on USA in-coming passenger lists
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 July 04 16:47 BST (UK) »
Dear Deb, I have checked the Ellis Island site and find that you can only search from 1892 onwards. I found a relative who had sailed in 1907. From what you say, Joseph Southwell must have emigrated some time between 1821 when he was born and 1851when he married in USA. Sorry I can't help but get back to me if there is anything else I can try for you.

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Re: Ckeck on USA in-coming passenger lists
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 July 04 20:47 BST (UK) »
I just found a book, "History of Burt Co. Nebraska" 1803 to 1929, Wahoo, Nebraska, Ludi Print Co. 1929, 281 pages.

Just a sample from it.

Milon Southwell was born in Columbia Co. Wisconsin on March 4, 1864, the son of Joseph and Jane (Morter) Southwell.

Milon Southwell was born March 23, 1902, the son of Milon Southwell and Clara Walter.

Milon graduated in 1919 from Lyons High School.

Hoka.