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Re: Anna Berggren from Sweden
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 10:43 BST (UK) »
Lovisa Andersdotter 1892:


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Re: Anna Berggren from Sweden
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 10:47 BST (UK) »
An explanation regarding moving around back then in Sweden:

From ArkivDigital...

Non-existing persons book (obefintlighetsbok)
The non-existing persons book or “obefintlighetsbok” is a list of the persons within the parish whose whereabouts are unknown or in other words missing. Whenever a person moved out of the parish, they were supposed to advise the parish minister that they were leaving and where they were moving to. The minister gave the individual a moving out certificate showing information about his birth, last residence, character and religious standing and the minister recorded the information in the household examination book and moving out book. If the individual moved to another parish within Sweden, he or she would give the certificate to the new minister and that minister would record it in the moving in book and the household examination record. This is the reason why in most cases it is easy to trace a person whereabouts in the Swedish books.

However, there were many cases where the person left the parish without telling the minister. Before the 1880’s the ministers had much freedom as to how they would enter information in the household examination books about persons who disappeared. Some would just cross out the name while others would move the persons to a “obefintlighet” page in the household examination book or the “obefintlighetsbok”.

In 1894, there was a requirement that the missing should be listing in a special category, “obefintlighet” or whereabouts not known. This is why you may see non-existing persons books listed in a parish archive. Often you will find seaman or persons who emigrated without securing the necessary moving out papers in these lists.

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Re: Anna Berggren from Sweden
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 10:54 BST (UK) »

Why did she not say she was going to Caribou or Ansonia?  And also why was she departing from Ramsberg and not Ljusnarsberg like the others?  It is certain we have found the right Johanna Christina Pettersson???  One reason I ask is I think I have found Johanna arriving in New York on the Bothia 21 Oct 1889.


I am pretty sure we have the right Johanna. She might not have known exactly where she was going. I do know that many just wrote the port of arrival. She may not have wanted to meet up with her brother.
I do think though that it is strange that the family left in different years. Maybe the family split up after some fight over something.

Ian

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Re: Anna Berggren from Sweden
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 16:39 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Ian for all the info.  You have done a marvelous job!!!

Would there be any Swedish records of people who returned to Sweden from the USA?  I found a mention of a widow Louisa who arrived in Liverpool from Boston and then departed for Hull with ticket through to Gothenberg.  It think this was around 1906?  Did not make a note of it!!!  Anyhow....It made me wonder if mother Lovisa might not have stayed in the US.  If she returned to Sweden can that be tracked in more modern records?  The one I found around 1906 was 70 years old which I thought was odd to have a lady of that age traveling by herself back to Sweden.

Are there burial or cemetery records in Sweden?  Can I learn where Per Mattsson or Carl Johan Peterson were buried?  Also....is there a record of the cause of death of Carl Johan Peterson?

One other thing I considered......I wonder if they had any family that came to the original "New Sweden" settlement in Northern Maine near Caribou around 1870.  I guess I need to explore names there too.

Have ordered a book on Swedish genealogy so maybe I can become a bit more knowledgeable.  Let's hope it's written in English!!!!!!

Best wishes
Jean


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Re: Anna Berggren from Sweden
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Jean
Just glad to help. I will look into Lovisa coming back. I will look for the deaths of Per and Carl.

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Re: Anna Berggren from Sweden
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 24 April 14 00:50 BST (UK) »
Just looked up Per Mattsson's birth record. He was christened Petter.
I can also say that Per Mattsson was arrested for theft in 1856!!
Have you found Louise Wilhelmina and mother Lovisa in USA yet?

Ian

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Re: Anna Berggren from Sweden
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 24 April 14 03:08 BST (UK) »
Hi

Oh dear....a thief!  I wonder what that was all about!

As for USA findings on Lovisa mother or daughter.....Nothing found yet.  Not even an arrival record!  The returning record I found for the 70 year old was Louisa Anderson arriving Liverpool 27 Feb 1908 with ticket through to Gothenberg.  She had departed Boston, was born in Sweden, and is not listed on the passenger list with family that I know of.

I also noticed a Swedish marriage in Orebro on 12 May 1900 of a Louisa Vilhelmina Petterson to Anders Emil Bergstrom and what looks like a daughter Helga Viktoria born 18 Sep 1900.  Any chance that is sister Lovisa????

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Re: Anna Berggren from Sweden
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 24 April 14 10:17 BST (UK) »
Here is this family with Helga. Not the right one.

Bergström, Anders Emil b.1878 - Father
Pettersson, Lovisa Vilhelmina b.1878 - Mother
Helga Viktoria b.1900 - Child


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