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Re: Lost Gt Gt Grandfather
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 20:08 BST (UK) »
I can't see a suitable William either  ???
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Re: Lost Gt Gt Grandfather
« Reply #19 on: Friday 09 May 14 11:17 BST (UK) »
Can't help you with Eliza Davies/Youd, but I have some info for other YOUD mentioned:

William Youd & Phoebe Jackson with son George Alexander Youd
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kh3&id=I5497

plus Samuel Youd (1815-1874)
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kh3&id=I6237
Hollin(g)(s)worth - Altrincham, Cheshire area
Diamond - Chester
Brassey/Davies - Moreton, Wirral
Pugh - Wirral
Youd/Youde/Yould/Youds - throughout Cheshire

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Re: Lost Gt Gt Grandfather
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 14 January 18 15:53 GMT (UK) »
A new thread has been raised on what happened to Joseph
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=785728.msg6408819#msg6408819

but I strongly recommend that new replies be made on this thread as it contains much more information.

In brief (from the 2017 thread):
familysearch has on the 1900 US census in Precinct 1, St Louis, Missouri:
Joseph B Winter age 67 born England (August)  Arrived in USA 1870
married 37 years to Sarah A age 66 born England,  Arrived in USA 1872
son William G (age 21 born Missouri)

This family is also in St Louis, Missouri on the 1880 census
This Joseph B died 1918 in Missouri.
As this Joseph married Sarah c1863 it is almost impossible (unless he lied on the 1900 census) for him to be the missing Joseph Bayles WINTER.

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Re: Lost Gt Gt Grandfather
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 14 January 18 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Census information is only as good as the informants knowledge - very often we find there are lots of Idiosyncrasies - dates of birth, marriage dates, immigration dates etc etc.,

There is not enough information contained in the USA finds to determine if this is the correct Joseph Bayles Winter that was found in Missouri - the death certificate gives no parents names at all.

The original poster should have given all the relevant information in the original USA post - this does save duplication and wasted time and effort by those researching.

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Re: Lost Gt Gt Grandfather
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 14 January 18 16:58 GMT (UK) »
I saw this earlier, having read your other thread and thought I would post it for information.

1871     5391/  33  / 6

7 Robert's Square, Merthyr

Eliza Bailey married 29 yrs born Glamorgan Glynn Heath / Neath
Thomas Bailey son 9 yrs born Merthyr
George son 8 yrs born Merthyr

Plus younger children- Ann 5 yrs, Daniel 2 yrs and William 6 months. Also
Mother Ann Davis and Brother Thomas.

I was unsure but have just seen that in 1862 there was a William Youd and an Eliza Davies on the same marriage page and a death for William Youd in 1864.

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No Joseph Bayles Winter in sight 1871 ................. The birth of William aged 6 months.......

William Winter  - mmn Davies -      
GRO Reference: 1870  D Quarter in Merthyr Tydfil  Volume 11A  Page 337

birth of Daniel under Bailey

Daniel Bailey -  mmn Davies    
GRO Reference: 1868  J Quarter in Merthyr Tydfil   Volume 11A  Page 453

birth of Ann under Youd ................

Ann Youd - mmn Davies    
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in Merthyr Tydfil  Volume 11A  Page 416

George Winter - mmn Joseph       
GRO Reference: 1863  D Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 318

Have these children been found on a later census   ???

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