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Agnes Phoebe Ball (Pitt) and Charles henry Ball - Tasmania Help
« on: Wednesday 23 April 14 14:11 BST (UK) »
Hi all
I am after help about Agnes Phoebe Ball (Pitt) and Charles henry Ball,  they were supposedly married (1916 - 1920) in Tasmania maybe in the Bracknell area. But I can find no records or any info if they had children.
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Re: Agnes Phoebe Ball (Pitt) and Charles henry Ball - Tasmania Help
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 15:15 BST (UK) »
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article51043284

Wedding description

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Re: Agnes Phoebe Ball (Pitt) and Charles henry Ball - Tasmania Help
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 20:03 BST (UK) »
On Australia Recordsearch there is a WWI record which tells us this about Charles which might be helpful in tracing him:

1) He lists his occupation as "missionary"
2) He was previously apprenticed to a draper
3) He was in the Tasmania rangers + the rifle club.
4) He was in North Carlton, Victoria in 1922
5) He was in Scottsdale in 1923

There's also another (undigitised) record dated 1920 which might give a hint as to where they went.
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Application for assistance for Charles Henry Ball re theological course at Ormond College

This Charles Henry, whoever he was, did get to Ormond College (in Melbourne)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4575524?searchTerm=%22C%20H%20Ball%22%20%22Ormond%20College%22

Trove shows lots on "Rev C H Ball"

He was in Scotsdale from 1922 to 1926 - then to Yarrum
He was at Yarrum until 1932 - called to Daylesford
moved to Bendigo in the late 1930s
from Bendigo to Frankston in 1943
in 1947 Frankstown saw him off to Balmain.  He and "Mrs Ball" were heading there to be near their only daughter.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/73595200
1950 - still in Balmain - visiting brother in law and sister "Mr and Mrs T S Lee, Longford" - hopefully lets you confirm this is the right man.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52769281

Here is a marriage report + photo from 1946 of his daughter and her husband:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/75056124
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/75056092
(note: not clear if they are still living, I found a possible death for the husband but not 100% sure I have the right man)

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search
 - Agnes d. 1961
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Re: Agnes Phoebe Ball (Pitt) and Charles henry Ball - Tasmania Help
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 22:54 BST (UK) »
From Ryerson Index http://ryersonindex.net/search.php  Agnes P BALL died 11 March 1961, late of Mosman

From Sydney Morning Herald 13 March 1961
BALL Agnes P -- March 11, 1961 at her residence 85 Muston Street Mosman, beloved wife of the Rev. C. H.  Ball. loved mother and mother in law of M and V B and grandmother of W and D

Will pm the names

regards,
   Ros

Well - found Jorose  :)
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Re: Agnes Phoebe Ball (Pitt) and Charles henry Ball - Tasmania Help
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 April 14 00:13 BST (UK) »
SMH Sep 23 1987
BARTLETT William Victor -- September 18, 1987 (suddenly) at home. late of Caringbah, dearly beloved husband of M loved father of W and D fond father-in-law of S loving grandfather of G and K aged 69 years.  Loved by all and will be sadly missed

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Re: Agnes Phoebe Ball (Pitt) and Charles henry Ball - Tasmania Help
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 April 14 00:44 BST (UK) »
SMH July 23 1964

BALL Rev Charles Henry -- July 22, 1964 at a private rest home, Ashfield, late of Glenmore Gardens, Etonville Parade, Croydon, widower of Agnes and loved father and father-in-law of M and Vic Bartlett of Caringbah fond grandfather of W and D, dear brother of Laura and Hett.  For funeral arrangements see Friday's herald.

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Re: Agnes Phoebe Ball (Pitt) and Charles henry Ball - Tasmania Help
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 April 14 00:51 BST (UK) »
Births
PITT Agnes Phoebe
Father Henry  Mother Emma Jane POTTER
At Westbury  20 Oct 1888  Reg#3725/1888

BALL Charles Henry
Father Henry  Mother Amelia Emma REEVES
At Longford  22 Dec 1886  Reg#2052/1887

Australian Electoral Roll
1914
BALL Charles Henry  Longford  Missionary

Link to search for the digitised WW1 service file
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

Link to Attestation page
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NAAMedia/ShowImage.asp?B=3047030&S=1&T=R

Marriage
BALL Charles Henry
PITT Agnes Phoebe
2 Jul 1919
St Andrew's Presbyterian Church, Launceston  Reg#1014

Births on my Tasmanian resource only extend to 1919.

I think this is possibly his death.  A man with same name died in 1972 is interred at Eastern Suburbs Cemetery could not be your man.  Age on burial record not a match and parents' names incorrect.

32540/1964    
BALL    Charles Henry
Parents Unknown
District Burwood.


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Re: Agnes Phoebe Ball (Pitt) and Charles henry Ball - Tasmania Help
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 April 14 00:52 BST (UK) »
Ros is there a funeral notice for either of them please?

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Re: Agnes Phoebe Ball (Pitt) and Charles henry Ball - Tasmania Help
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 April 14 00:57 BST (UK) »
Siblings
Births
BALL Henrietta
Father Henry  Mother Amelia Emma REEVES
At Port Sorrell 3 Mar 1885  Reg#2636/1885

BALL Laura Martha
Father Henry Mother Amelia Emma REEVES
At Longford  15 Feb 1888  Reg#2118/1888

Their parents did not marry in Tasmania.

Cando



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