Joseph Ralph WATSON

[KGarrad]

Just as an aside, Ellis's husband, Sir Henry Samman, succeded to the Baronetcy created for his father, Sir Henry Samman (1880-1928).

Henry, the father, set up a Fund to encourage the study of business methods and languages  - the Sir Henry Samman Endowment Fund.
He was Managing Director of the Deddington Steamship Company, and Mayor of Beverley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Samman

[bendywendy]

Yes, sadly children involved again. Another Will, interesting.
I saw that earlier about the Samman Fund, did think it was possibly the same family.

Ellis reminds me of Dorothy, Joseph's sister, she got the right man Fawcett Pudsey and family and lived the high life too.

Found this in newspaper archives:

The Hull Daily Mail, Friday February 15 1901
More from the Front
A large company assembled at the Railway Station on Thursday to witness the departure of four men who have volunteered for service with the Yorkshire Yeomanry. They were Harry Samman son of Captain Samman, Joseph Watson son of Joseph Watson of Gardham, Charles Spencely and Hugh Bell, the last two who were employed at Mr Arthur Wilson's hunting stables.
~~~~~

Strange coincidence again of the Samman and the Watson families.
Gardham the place for this Watson family 

Now a query comes up here, if Joseph Watson was away from Feb 1901, then that Joseph Watson residing at Melbourne on 1901 census may not be him, unless he was back home for when the census took place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Yeomanry
The second contingent .... I wonder if Joseph was shipped back as "unfit" as this could put him as being in Melbourne 1901 census

bendywendy

[KGarrad]

The Joseph M Watson, in Melbourne in 1901, is a complete red-herring!

Joseph Morley Watson can be accounted for in both 1891 and 1911, born in Cherry Burton and with parents William & Anne (1901) and widowed Ann (1911).

[bendywendy]

oh silly me you had already stated that bit..... so most likely then Joseph was with the army in Boer War then at the time.

From newspaper reports it looks likely the Boyes and Samman's were related from what I can see on the highlighted info Ellis Boyes and Bryan Boyes were siblings, but it costs money to view he full report:

Hull Daily Mail East Riding of Yorkshire, England
11 Apr 1929
ALDERMAN MOURNED
Rowland (daughter), Mr W. Rowland (son-in-law), Mr Bryan Boyes (brother), and Mrs Boyes, Lady Saniman (niece), and Sir Henry Samman, Bryan Boyes, jun. (nephew). Tbe County Council was represented by- Sir Alexander Macdonald tho Isles (vicechairman), Mr J.....


Hull Daily Mail East Riding of Yorkshire, England
8 Dec 1931
AVIATORS AT THE ALTAR
packed church testifying to the popularity of the bridal pair. The bride was Misß Ellis Joan Watson., the daughter of Lady Samman, and step-daughter of Sir Henry Samman. of Browsholme, Cottingham, and the bridegroom Flight-Lieut. Brian Elgar Moody, only son of....


Hull Daily Mail East Riding of Yorkshire, England
2 Jan 1935
LADY SAMMAN'S SON WEDS
LADY SAMMAN'S SON WEDS Hull Bride Going to Tanganyika CHARMING SCENES AT NEWLAND MR JOSEPH BOTES WATSOX, Browsholme, Cottingham, son of Lady Samman, was married at St. John's Church, ?Sewland, to-day, Miss Betty Andrew, daughter of Mr and Mrs Arthur Ernest...

The transcription for the highlights leaves a great deal to be said about

bendywendy

[scotiagirl]

Sorry, just running out the door but yes, on Ralph Beverly Watson's enlistment papers, he says that he has previous military experience: he's a South African veteran (yeomry).  Thanks.

[heywood]

Getting closer.

I had wondered if he was involved with the Boer war to explain his absence.
They were married in Beverley and the first child was born there but the second child was born in Manchester. Unfortunately, no baptism online.

I also had a bit of a panic that Ellis had married the other Joseph but I think not.

[bendywendy]

Looking good everyone, I think the newspaper reports tie the families together.
But, why did he change his name so much, after all Ellis had found him for the divorce, the only other
possibility was so his children could not find him

Now time for my bed, as these Watson's are making me head spin 

bendywendy

[bendywendy]

I have found a WW1 photograph online of the East Riding Yeomanry, which has been identified through the cap badge.

bendywendy

[heywood]

As the father was Joseph, he may have been known as Ralph. His brother Cyril D, seems to have been known as Douglas.
Perhaps he added Beverley because of the place for some reason