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"love child" - was this an official census relationship
« on: Thursday 08 May 14 17:59 BST (UK) »
While tracking some distant relations on a census, I discovered that the relationship of one of the children to the head of the household was "love child".
The child in question was born on 18 Jan 1903 and registered with his mother's maiden surname and no inclusion of the father's surname as an additional christian name. The couple were married later that same year. In the census the boy has the surname he was registered by as his surname but now his middle name is the surname of his mother's husband. By the time the boy marries he is using the surname of his mother's husband and has dropped his original one, also when his death is registered.
So if the mother's husband is his natural father,  why not list him as son on the census even though born before they married. Alternatively if not natural father, wouldn't he be listed as step son (as if the mother had been married before and he was the child of her previous husband).?


Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
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Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: "love child" - was this an official census relationship
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 May 14 18:04 BST (UK) »
It's not standard but on the other hand I think it's a fair inference that the man was his natural father.  Probably it was meant as just another, nicer, way of saying illegitimate child (it was not until 1927 that the subsequent marriage of the parents was capable of legitimising the child).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: "love child" - was this an official census relationship
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 May 14 18:17 BST (UK) »
If you put just Love Child as a Keyword in the 1911 census there are many entries.

Stan
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Re: "love child" - was this an official census relationship
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 May 14 18:24 BST (UK) »
Sweet :D

(So much nicer than B.....d which I see still gets a few hits even in the later censuses).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: "love child" - was this an official census relationship
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 May 14 19:02 BST (UK) »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_%28law%29

Quoted from above link:
Use of the term "illegitimate child" is now rare, even in legal contexts. Terms such as "extramarital child", "love child" and "child born out of wedlock" are more commonly used.

I agree 'Love Child' is so much nicer than the B word.

Cas
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: "love child" - was this an official census relationship
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 May 14 21:33 BST (UK) »
In 1911 there are plenty of entries for 'illegitimate' 'illegitimate son' 'illegitimate daughter' 'Wife's Son (illegitimate)' etc.

Stan
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Re: "love child" - was this an official census relationship
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 May 14 21:38 BST (UK) »
I think the link regards today's view hopefully Stan, we have moved on.  Wonder what they put in this eras census??  I cannot see any today putting love child etc.  It would be son or dau even if unmarried. Rightly so if the child is yours..mother or father.

Cas
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: "love child" - was this an official census relationship
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 May 14 21:40 BST (UK) »
What will the 2014 census say, ..  I dread to think :)

xin

similar thinking 'cas'  :)

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Re: "love child" - was this an official census relationship
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 May 14 21:49 BST (UK) »
 Ditto xinia  :o  :P
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland