"Sudbury House" Harrow 1764

[estiman]

I have a reference to an ancestor born at "Sudbury House" (in italics in the original), Harrow, in 1764.  His wife-to-be was apparently also born at "Sudbury House" - also in italics for her. Born 1765.  Does anyone know what this was?  I've tried various Google searches & most of the time I get estate agents! 

[Kay99]

The 1891 census lists a Sudbury House as occupied by Alex McLeod age 60 b Scotland Kirkcudbright a gardener and his daughters

Kay

[carol8353]

The 1891 census lists a Sudbury House as occupied by Alex McLeod age 60 b Scotland Kirkcudbright a gardener and his daughters

Kay

Sudbury House appears to be in a road called Sudbury Grove (Sudbury Hill) in 1891.

[estiman]

     3 embarrassed smileys! There should be more... and I must learn not to post in the wee small hours when brain stops working.  I have corrected the original post - dates were, in fact, 1764 and 1765.  Apologies to Kay & Carol for wasting their time - input was appreciated. A gardening midwife would have been interesting, however!

[carol8353]

I knew the Sudbury Hill area very well in the 1960's as my gran lived there,but can't tell you much about it in the 1760's I'm afraid 

[estiman]

I've found a Sudbury House in Wembley (Harrow proximity) but it's a modern care home and was probably named after the road.  Looks like modern houses all round - unfortunately I can't view it on Google maps as they didn't film that section.  There's also one in Monroe county, NY and another in Derbyshire.
I'm curious about this detail as both he and his wife were born in this 'Sudbury House', at 1 year interval but 2 different families.

[[Ray]]

Hi

Worth making a note

1890 George sydney Waterlow esq is noted in the County directory


1841 Sudbury Hill House (is that one name for it?)
[ Middlesex, Harrow-on-Hill, District 4 HO107 / 657 / 3 / ..... ]
William Ferrer 46
Mary Ann Ferrer 36

follow the residences . . . .
Pest House
Sudbury Hill House (again) John Brown 70


Could that imply medical use before / after ?


Ray

[estiman]

Hi Ray, thanks for info.  I found the 1841 Ferrer record - Sudbury Hill House seems to be for the well-to-do: 1 governess and 7 servants.  I can't work out his profession from the abbreviation. I've also found George Sydney Waterlow, living Sudbury House, 1890 Kelly's.  He appears to be listed as a Middlesex magistrate.  1891 census gives a Thomas Darness, schoolmaster, living at Sudbury Hill House, again with 1 governess and 6 servants.  I cant't find George Waterlow in 1891 census - perhaps he died and the house was then occupied by Darness (couldn't find his death on FreeBMD)? Unless there are 2 Sudbury houses, one with "Hill" and the other without.  I found a third on 1862 Stanford map but this was in Hammersmith.

I couldn't work out your "follow the residences...John Brown".  Nor why there might be a medical connection.

As for my ancestor, I don't know the profession of his father, but he did have his son educated at Harrow school, .  lf the house in question was the rather grand Sudbury Hill one, perhaps his spouse to be was the daughter of a servant??? (names are Winkley and Chappell respectively)

Not sure this one is going anywhere fast....

Cheers,
Ray

[JenB]

You can see a Sudbury House on this map of Harrow and surrounding areas: http://maps.nls.uk/view/102345946

Go to the bottom-right corner, then follow Sudbury Hill going north-west towards Harrow. You can see Sudbury Priory, then Sudbury Grove, then Sudbury House all on the north-east side of Sudbury Hill