Frances ?

[avm228]

Possible death for James Gilbert is Jun qtr 1845 St George Southwark 4 286.

[bedfordshire boy]

Only christening I can find in Huntingdon which may be a relative on Freereg
William s of William and Frances Filavel 2.8.1809 St Mary Huntingdon.
Could be a brother?

Hunts isn't the easiest county to research online as the LDS was refused permission to film many parish registers. Brampton (not Brompton as shown in 1851) baptisms aren't on the IGI, BVRI, Freereg, Ancestry etc, nor is a transcript available from Hunts FHS. The only places to view the parish registers are Cambridge and Huntingdon Archives, or you can use the reasonably priced research service at Huntingdon Archives.

William Favel married Frances Allpress at Huntingdon St Mary & St Benedict in 1799 but until you find a baptism for Frances Favel it's speculation that these might be her parents.

[avm228]

Possible relative of Frances here?

1823 Charles Favell, age 36, height 5ft.8ins.dark complexion, abode Brampton by

Huntingdon, general behaviour indifferent . Suspicion of Murder.


http://www.fflavell.freeserve.co.uk/emigration.htm

[bedfordshire boy]

She may have died as Frances BRITTEN, aged 71, Mar qtr 1871 St Saviour Southwark, frustratingly just missing the 1871 census.

There's a burial of a Frances Britten aged 72 at St Giles, Camberwell on 10 Feb 1871, which might be the same person.

[bedfordshire boy]

Sorry, but doesn't the 1861 census just say that she is a widow. How do we know who this applies to?

1861 names her as Frances Britton widow. The inference must be that she was the widow of Mr Britton, particularly as she named herself as Frances Gilbert widow in 1851.

[Greaves]

Following an earlier suggestion I have been looking for a birth certificate/baptism for William Gilbert, who according to the censuses was born c1841, in order to confirm Frances' maiden name. but so far I haven't had much luck.

Building on the various suggestions so far, I have ordered certificates for James Gilbert Jnr (birth), James Gilbert Snr (death) and Frances Britten (death).

The outstanding problems appear to be finding the marriage of Frances to Britton and the birth of William, the youngest son. Both of these are at present eluding me.

[Greaves]

I have now found the marriage of the eldest daughter Susannah Favell Gilbert (10 Dec 1843 St John the Evangelist, Lambeth). The image on ancestry shows that James Gilbert was still alive in Dec 1843, so this fits with the suggested death date of 1845.

[avm228]

The outstanding problems appear to be finding the marriage of Frances to Britton and the birth of William, the youngest son. Both of these are at present eluding me.

In case it helps, William's age was shown as 9 weeks in the 1841 census (6 June 1841) making his birthdate around the beginning of April - so should be registered in the June qtr or might just have squeaked in to the March quarter if born by then and registered quickly.

On a quick look I could not easily see it either, however.

[Greaves]

The above two problems still eluding me. I have, however, now also found the marriage of Sophia Gilbert, who was married 6 Feb 1848, in the same church as her sister. Her father James is shown as deceased. So he was alive in Dec 1843, but dead in Feb 1848. The suggested death date of 1845 is looking better and better.

Update: however at the marriage of Sarah Gilbert in Sep 1847, again in the same church, he is NOT shown as deceased!