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Re: John Barnard 1886 - 1951 Harriet Lee 1887 - 1944
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 20:59 BST (UK) »
Your so kind vronlady-sorry I've gone on FreeBMD and can't seem to fill out cells correctly! - could you tell me what info I need to put in the cells to get index for johns birth cert?

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Re: John Barnard 1886 - 1951 Harriet Lee 1887 - 1944
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 21:07 BST (UK) »
Vronlady and I are different people :))

You need name, date and place really.  We can help if you provide the information.  Have you identified a birthplace for John from the censuses? Is he Barnard or Barnett in early life?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: John Barnard 1886 - 1951 Harriet Lee 1887 - 1944
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 21:41 BST (UK) »
Ooopppss sorry-iam not sure now!- The Barnards where not very patriotic and didn't like going to war for "king and country" so iam guessing they have used the Name Barnett - it was quiet common for travelling people of that time to change there surname slightly-my Dad has said that he's grandad only went by the name Barnard and he seems to think that he was born in East or west ham-not sure really avm228

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Re: John Barnard 1886 - 1951 Harriet Lee 1887 - 1944
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 21:44 BST (UK) »
You said you had some Orpington censuses for the family.  Does John appear in any of them and if so under what full name, age and birthplace?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: John Barnard 1886 - 1951 Harriet Lee 1887 - 1944
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 21:47 BST (UK) »
OK I have found the 1901 census.  John is enumerated under surname Barnett, aged 16 b Edmonton Middx.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: John Barnard 1886 - 1951 Harriet Lee 1887 - 1944
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 22:07 BST (UK) »
So to sound thick - so should I put Johns surname as Barnett and not Barnard when going on websit to try and get he's birth cert?

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Re: John Barnard 1886 - 1951 Harriet Lee 1887 - 1944
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 22:22 BST (UK) »
You do not sound thick! Try both variants in turn. If you do not find an Edmonton birth registration for John then maybe try one of his siblings.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: John Barnard 1886 - 1951 Harriet Lee 1887 - 1944
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 19 June 14 16:53 BST (UK) »
it is proving difficult to pin down a definite birth I for some of the children .

I think this is rose.

Rose Barnard birth reg Sep qtr 1900 Bromley Kent ref 2a 498

you would need to go on the GRO link given earlier and fill in the above details. the certificate will be sent in post to you and cost 9.25. you could specify that the father has to be called Charles and mother Louisa if you wanted.

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Re: John Barnard 1886 - 1951 Harriet Lee 1887 - 1944
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 19 June 14 17:15 BST (UK) »
Could you tell me what info I have to put in the cells ? As I've tried with John I can't seem to get any info back from GRO

People are so helpfull on Rootschat - "so thankful " Dave
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