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carrolls manchester
« on: Wednesday 18 June 14 09:38 BST (UK) »
need help. my grandfather Arthur carroll married sarah Elizabeth archer june 1916  Manchester. I know from marriage cert his father was William carroll a gas worker.  I cannot arthur on 1901 or 1911 census.
where can he be?

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Re: carrolls manchester
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 10:18 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

When was Arthur born? What ages did they give at marriage, witness, address etc, it sometimes helps the search.

Possible family?

1901 - RG13; Piece: 3753; Folio: 180; Page: 38
Manchester

All born Lancs, Manchester

William Carroll 30 cokewheeler? gasworks
Mary A " wife 29
William " son 7
Arthur " son 3
Louisa " dau 1
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: carrolls manchester
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 19:38 BST (UK) »
There is an online tree which gives his parents as William Carroll(1864 - ) and Mary Emma johnson

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: carrolls manchester
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 19:45 BST (UK) »
Arthur appears on 1911 census and it looks like his father has remarried to another mary -there are several Roberts stepchildren with them

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: carrolls manchester
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 21:08 BST (UK) »
It looks like William married Mary Jane Roberts formerly Atkinson in 1910 Prestwich Register Office or Registrar attended

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Re: carrolls manchester
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 21:18 BST (UK) »
thanks for replys.  Arthur age on marriage cert is 24.  which means he was born 1891. I have found this. its his father I am having trouble with. if it is the William on 1911 census with new wife
and stepchildren its his year of birth that is confusing me . on the marriage cert for new wife he is 46 in 1910. and his father was Thomas, mechanic fitter. I can only find a William with father Thomas in  born1867 Manchester none in 1863-64. there is rumour that they were irish Orangemen, but cant find any census with irish connection or birth.     very confusing.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 22:32 BST (UK) »
What is the address on Arthur's marriage certificate?

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 23:00 BST (UK) »
William Carroll baptism 22nd December 1867 St Philip's Manchester
Parents Thomas and Alice

Address Back Hiskham Street
Occupation Fitter

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159376-851718-73?cc=1788853&wc=M6FD-ZZS:143838901,158004801,158017801

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Re: carrolls manchester
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 23:05 BST (UK) »
Mary Emma Carroll died in 1907 aged 40 Cheatham district of Manchester