Sigwarth in Marylebone / London

[groom]

From my understanding you can't do or have look ups done at the GRO, you have to buy the certificates. So if you did pay someone, they would still have to go through the same procedure and include the cost of the certificates in their services.

[Craclyn]

We would all love to have that kind of information readily available from the GRO Robin, but unfortunately it is not.

The best solution would be if the English & Welsh records could be accessed online in the same way as the Scottish ones.

The positive aspect of the GRO system is that they will refund your money if they cannot find the record you have ordered.

[robin1860]

well, its realy not about the money, but i have to order individualy 3 records per person. thats very anoying me. but in the end, there is no joice

[sgf28]

Could this be Mary Sigwarth on London Electoral Register up to 1952:

The Priory
Address: Vinnycote

County or Borough:Hendon
Ward or Division/Constituency: North Division

Ref. No: MR/PER/C/0876

[robin1860]

possibly. she was born 1877 in Marylebone as daugther of Florian and Catherine Moriarty.
she died (possibly) in 1st quarter 1963, i found some traces that she worked as a nunn at the orphene convent Vincent de paul. a shame, that they dont have any worker-lists of their employees..

[robin1860]

well, meanwhile i got all the marriage and death certificates for Ann Mary and Hyacinthe.
Ann Mary`s seems clear to me, on Hyacinthe`s side (because of her name Moriarty) there is no 100% evidence, thats shes the correct one.
But because even if she would have married she wouldnt carry on the name Sigwarth, its a dead-road to me (because i only follow the persons who carry on the last name).

But Augustine Florian is still pending...
So all informations on him would be of interest, especially the journey to the US and another hint that leads to south america.

Robin

[robin1860]

so, coming back to this topic after a few weeks getting the certificates on the several family-members. All were correct except of the death of Florian Augustine. The mentioned datas on "FREE BMD" are not correct, no informations were found on the given details.
So it seems that he realy traveled over to the US and did NOT came back.
Searching for clarification

Robin

[dawnsh]

Hi Robin

Ordering certificates online from our General Register Office (GRO) can be a little tricky.

To get the best service, you login in and select whichever type of certificate you require, birth marriage death etc, then their system asks you for the year of the event.

If you have identified the entry you require from freebmd or Ancestry or FindMyPast, you will have the year.

Then comes the tricky bit.

The system defaults to no in answer to the question 'do you know the reference number'.

If you have the reference number from the index you need to tick the yes box and move to the next screen where you will be asked for those details from the index.

If you say no, you will be asked a lot more questions that you may not be able to answer.

If you say yes to the reference number, the certificate will be despatched in about 5 working days, if you say no, the certificate will be sent in about 15 working days.

However, if you say yes, you must enter the details exactly as they are in the index, even if you think they are wrong.

If you make a mistake, even a small one and what you type does not match the index, the GRO will not send you the certificate and you will get a refund.

If you say no and enter the details from your memory or research, they also may not match the information on the entry they have in their records.

So what type of certificate were you trying to order and what was the full name of the person and what was the GRO reference?

Dawn

[dawnsh]

According to www.deceasedonline.com

Augustine Sigwarth was buried 29 January 1962 at St Pancras Cemetery.

He is in a plot with 12 others, which in this country is known as a 'common grave', not privately owned.

It may be worth your while contacting the London Borough of Camden directly to see if they can give you anymore information about this man. From my own experience it is not worth paying Deceased Online for their information. They may be able to help as you have the actual date of burial and the cemetery he is in.

http://www.camden.gov.uk/ccm/content/contacts/council-contacts/community-and-living/contact-leisure-department-cemeteries-management.en