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Re: unmarked burial Francis Murphy
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 12 April 15 21:05 BST (UK) »
Hoping someone can help me.
Have been searching for a burial 1897 in Ireland no luck but have found Francis Murphy parents both born in Ireland .His father was Francis born 1836 in Ireland and his mother Elizabeth .
He had a brother Owen born 1861 and they were both born in Ireland is there anyway I can find what county they were born in and perhaps Francis body was taken by a relative and buried.Finding his parents were from Ireland its a good chance Francis was visiting relatives when he drowned in 1897 in the river Lea.
Any info however small will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: unmarked burial Francis Murphy
« Reply #19 on: Monday 13 April 15 09:44 BST (UK) »
I have found 2 marriages in Ireland for a Francis Murphy  1856 in Co Down and 1855 in Co Antrim is there anyone who can check these and see if they are the right people for me please.Francis married an Elizabeth.

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Re: unmarked burial Francis Murphy
« Reply #20 on: Monday 13 April 15 18:47 BST (UK) »
I have found 2 marriages in Ireland for a Francis Murphy  1856 in Co Down and 1855 in Co Antrim is there anyone who can check these and see if they are the right people for me please.Francis married an Elizabeth.

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Where did you find them?

how will you know it's the right couple unless you know Elizabeth's surname.
You need to find the boys birth's first.

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Re: unmarked burial Francis Murphy
« Reply #21 on: Monday 13 April 15 21:02 BST (UK) »
found them on an irish  site.
1871 census says Francis 35 born Ireland
Elizabeth 34 born Ireland
Owen 10 born Ireland
Mary Ann 4 born Durham
Elizabeth 1 born Durham
I know these are the right children in my tree.

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Re: unmarked burial Francis Murphy
« Reply #22 on: Monday 13 April 15 22:54 BST (UK) »
found them on an irish  site.

You still haven't said which site.

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Re: unmarked burial Francis Murphy
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 04:04 BST (UK) »
I looked at several but think it was Irishroots. I was looking at areas or near  where I know the Murphys I was following were living or was mentioned with them.

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Re: unmarked burial Francis Murphy
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 08:09 BST (UK) »
It appears you were looking at RootsIreland.
I checked using the free search they have marriages which match Francis Murphy wife Elizabeth for those years and counties but they don't seem to have an Owen birth father Francis mother Elizabeth at all and only one in Aramgh with father Francis in 1865.
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Re: unmarked burial Francis Murphy
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 08:24 BST (UK) »
I have found 2 marriages in Ireland for a Francis Murphy  1856 in Co Down and 1855 in Co Antrim is there anyone who can check these and see if they are the right people for me please.Francis married an Elizabeth.
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The 1855 marriage is to an Eliza Convery-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG6L-8WZ

However, as Sinann has already mentioned, you have no way of knowning if this is the correct couple without knowing Elizabeth's maiden name- birth certificates for the children born in England will give you this.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: unmarked burial Francis Murphy
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 08:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for this info./