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« on: Tuesday 22 July 14 13:38 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find my granddads birth record! i have his death certificate/marriage certificate but cannot find any birth record!!
I am pretty much a newbie with research
How would i go about searching other countries (there was rumour he was american)?
his name was alexander malcolm truelove mother unknown, father stephen truelove....born 1917 died 1985 married 1941 and served as a gunner for the royal artillery (does anyone know how i go about searching military records? i have his army number)
Thankyou in advance for any help given :)

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Re: no birth record
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 July 14 13:52 BST (UK) »
His service records will still be held by the MOD
https://www.gov.uk/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records
They cost 30 and are apparently currently taking around 6 months to get



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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 July 14 13:54 BST (UK) »
Hi

Where (in what country) did he die in 1985?  Depending on the jurisdiction his death record may show his birthplace, to the best of the informant's knowledge.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: no birth record
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 July 14 13:58 BST (UK) »
thankyou i shall get in touch with the MOD
He died in glamorgan there is no record of where he was born  ???


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Re: no birth record
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 July 14 14:01 BST (UK) »
He died in glamorgan there is no record of where he was born  ???

Have you got the death certificate? This information should be included on death certificates from 1969.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: no birth record
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 July 14 14:05 BST (UK) »
This is the record from 1911 census for Stephen Truelove living at Fullongley, Warwickshire.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XWZX-VMN

There were only 2 Stephen Trueloves in 1911 in England & Wales.  The other one is at Brockhurst Lutterworth, Monks Kirby, Leicestershire.


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McLeod, McKean, Hepburn (Fife)
McGowan, Gowan (Dumfriesshire, Ireland)
Nelson, McKean (Lanarkshire)
McKean, Mulgrew (Lethbridge, Alberta)
Boswell, Plumb, Lyon, Stokes, Pemberton, Crawford, Threadgold (Cheshire)
Tierney (Scotland/Ireland)

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Re: no birth record
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 July 14 14:09 BST (UK) »
i will get my mom to check the death certificate as she has it....thankyou
I have the information for those 2 stephens on the 1911 census but because of the missing link of alexanders birth certificate i cannot trace his father back to either of those....or am i missing something??
peoples knowledge of research amazes me thank you so much  :)

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 July 14 14:19 BST (UK) »
There is this death in GLamorgan where the Date of birth is not known,but it is in 1982,not 85?
Is this him,although no middle names have been used.It would all depend on who registered the death of course as to how much info they knew about him.

Alexander Truelove
Date of Registration    Jun 1982
Registration district    South Glamorgan

Volume   28  Page    1721
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 July 14 14:21 BST (UK) »
The marriage cert may be useful too,if you have it can you tell us all that it says about him please.
Witnesses can often be family members,it should show his job at the time and his fathers job and if he is still alive.

Does your mum know anything about her grandad Stephen,did she know him,had he died before she was born,and where?
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