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Re: marriage of William Howis to Eliza, Sussex, abt. 1847
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 15 September 15 12:38 BST (UK) »
Hi. I am not sure how I found the Ship's journal, but it was very interesting. I think I may have googled the name of the ship and then followed links to journal. But I have a copy of what I found. All three of the listed Howis ancestors aboard (Eliza, James and William were seen by the doctor for dysentery.
Journal of the Anna Maria Convict Ship
Mr. W. McCrea, Surgeon
Between the 22nd September 1851 and the 4th February 1852
National Archives Record  summary of Surgeon’s Journal.
Dec 13 Eliza Howis 23 Female Convict Dysentery Dec 21 duty
1851. Folio 18: Eliza Howis, aged 23, female convict; sick or hurt, dysentery; put on sick list, 13 December 1851, discharged 21 December
(Ill on voyage)
Jan 7 James Howis 3 Child of a Female
Convict
Dysentery Jan 17 died
Folio 10: case no 14, James Howis, aged 3, child of female convict; sick or hurt, dysentery, this child was badly fed and had been repeatedly ill with bowel complaints previously He suffered much pain and motions were very bloody; put on sick list 7 January 1852, died 17 January 1852 at sea

Jan 28 William Howis 1 Child of a Female
Convict
Dysentery Jan 30
1851
Duty

Folio 16: William Howis, aged 1; put on list 20 October 1851; result of vaccination, unsuccessful.

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Re: marriage of William Howis to Eliza, Sussex, abt. 1847
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 15 September 15 13:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you, I will look out for them.

Are you aware that there is quite a bit of information on the Female Convict Research Centre database for Eliza Howis?  You have to register as a member to access it though.



http://www.femaleconvicts.org.au/
Williams, Owens, Pritchard, Povall, Banks, Brown.

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Re: marriage of William Howis to Eliza, Sussex, abt. 1847
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 29 September 15 13:04 BST (UK) »
Coming to this a bit late, but....
As far as I know, after their mother (Silvestia b1800ish ) died in 1837, and after a spell in Cuckfield Workhouse, Eliza was eventually deported to Tasmania.
Silvestia ( daughter ) b1827 Lindfield, married Daniel Kemp and was living in a tent on Copthorne common in 1851 ( the parents ages are wrong on the census ).  I say married, but I understand that they didn't actually get married until 1869 in Canterbury, and she used the name Silvester Brooks  !!!!  I guess that Silvestia b1800 and William Henry Howes never did marry and that her name was actual Silvestia Brooks.
Silvestia b1827 and Daniel Kemp had about 13 children, the oldest was again Silvestia, registered as Silvester Howis in Cuckfield in 1843, she was my Great Grandmother.
Daniel Kemp and Silvestia lived at 1 Primrose Ally, Forest Row in 1861 and continued to live in the East Grinstead area.


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Re: marriage of William Howis to Eliza, Sussex, abt. 1847
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 30 September 15 12:37 BST (UK) »
 Hello There. Thanks for reply. Some interesting info.
Is your Sylvestre the same one that was also in Cuckfield workhouse at one time, Eliza’s sister? I think there were some brothers as well.

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Re: marriage of William Howis to Eliza, Sussex, abt. 1847
« Reply #22 on: Friday 02 October 15 08:40 BST (UK) »
On the 1841 census, Silvester was in workhouse at Cuckfield aged 15.  I'm pretty sure that Eliza (Harriss ) and James were in workhouse at Hurtsperpoint aged 9 and 11.

James: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7SV-1JC
Eliza: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7SV-1VW


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Re: marriage of William Howis to Eliza, Sussex, abt. 1847
« Reply #23 on: Friday 02 October 15 12:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that. Do you have any information on their births and parents births. I gather they never married. My Great, great, grandmother was Eliza Howis, who was transported to van Diemen's land and married, had many more children to Frederick Butler. My grandmother ended up living in Auckland New Zealand from teenage years till death. I live in Australia.

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Re: marriage of William Howis to Eliza, Sussex, abt. 1847
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 03 October 15 09:36 BST (UK) »
I found some old notes I made at the records Offices at Chichester and Lewes.

Sylvester Howes Bapt 30 Dec 1827 Lindfield Parents William Howes and Sylvester – “Travelling People”

Eliza Howes Bapt 01 Feb 1830 Cowfold Parents William Howes and Sylvester – “Travellers recently married Islip in Oxfordshire”

James Hows Chr 08 Jul 1832 Albourne Parents William Hows and Sylvester – “Travellers”

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N56N-9R7
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMBM-VPB

AND I HAVE JUST, THIS MINUTE,  FOUND ANOTHER - Abraham Howse born 1837
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5XZ-4B6
Will have to investigate him

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Re: marriage of William Howis to Eliza, Sussex, abt. 1847
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 03 October 15 19:54 BST (UK) »
William the son, born 1849 Cuckfield in Ticehurst workhouse on 1851 census
http://theweald.org/N10.asp?NId=4775133


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Re: marriage of William Howis to Eliza, Sussex, abt. 1847
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 03 October 15 21:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks Peter. This son travelled with Eliza as well as a younger son James. All three suffered dysentery on journey to Hobart and one actually died.