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Re: Search for Looby
« Reply #9 on: Monday 08 December 14 06:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi molelly,

Welcome to RootsChat   :D

Ancestry's BDM indexes are sourced from the microfiche and show that Kenneth's birth was registered as occurring in 1910, also under the name LOUBY.  I am having no success in finding the registration in the online government indexes.  Do you know when John was born?

As Jorose has said, the BDM documentation will help with information about Euphemia - her age, place of birth and parents' names so that is where you should start.

https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/datacollected/birth.aspx
https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/datacollected/marriage.aspx
https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/datacollected/death.aspx

Debra  :D

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Re: Search for Looby
« Reply #11 on: Monday 08 December 14 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Hello Molelly and welcome to Rootschat.

Billhead hasn't been on Rootschat since 1st Sept,but as long as he hasn't changed his email address,will be notified that we have all posted here and hopefully come back online later.

Fingers crossed  :D

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Re: Search for Looby
« Reply #12 on: Monday 08 December 14 13:36 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if these are 2 different Euphemia's or not as I cannot find any Euphemia Veronica!

A Euphemia Ann Sturrock (?hard to read) Thynne was born 24/4/1875 Arbroath, Angus to John Thynne, mechanical engineer, and Mary nee Meek.  (John and Mary married 1/10/1859 in Arbroath).

The family were in Leeds, Yorkshire in 1881 and 1891 and looks like Euphemia Ann S. Thynne married a John Tamar Louby in 1895 York.  Looks like he died as John T Louby bc.1871 d.1913 Leeds.   Looks like John senior in the army -  eldest son John Louby bc.1896 Preston, Lancs.

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Re: Search for Looby
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 December 14 20:13 GMT (UK) »
This is fascinating! The facts which you have, seem to align very closely with the information which my mother recalls being told/knows of.
Mum is a NZer and remembers her paternal grandmother and step-grandfather. Mum's dad was John Darroch - born John Louby on 14/10/1898?
She recalls the NZ Police coming to inform her father of his mother's death -16/03/1935. She fell while alighting from a taxi onto a wet Wellington pavement.
John Louby (Darroch) had a sister, Doris who died when she was four.
Euphemia, born in Arbroath, was said to have eloped from boarding school as a 16 year old to marry John T. Louby, who was in the British/Indian Army.
WOW!!! It would be great if we were able to talk!


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Re: Search for Looby
« Reply #14 on: Monday 08 December 14 21:49 GMT (UK) »
I would just like to add, that on Henry Joseph Darroch's war record from Archway it said he was married in Devonport to Euphemia Veronica Louby by a Reverend Father (Catholic marriage).

This might be another resource for kiwi relatives to use:

http://www.aucklandcatholic.org.nz/about-us/administration/archives/
Genealogical research

Microfiche of sacramental records $10 per sheet. $8 per printout if Microfiche number is supplied, otherwise $10 a printout. To photocopy an original entry from a Register:
$20 per page, Certificates: $10 for A5; $15 for A4; $18 for overseas orders.

I would see if I could just go read the marriage details but I guess $10 for a marriage cert is ok if you really need to have a copy

Maybe the Catholic church kept some record separate from the NZbdm?
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Re: Search for Looby
« Reply #15 on: Monday 08 December 14 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Births March Quarter 1898

LOUBY, Annie Doris
Registered at Dover, Kent
Vol 2a Page 1020

Deaths Sep Quarter 1903

LOUBY, Doris
Aged 5
Registered at Leeds, Yorkshire
Vol 9b Page 325

1901 Census
Leeds, Yorkshire

20 Badminton Terrace

Euphemia A. S. LOUBY, Wife, Married, 24, born Arbroath, Scotland
John LOUBY, Son, 5, born Preston, Lancashire
Annie D. LOUBY, Daur, 3, born Dover, Kent
Thomas J. TRACEY, Adopted Son, 1 month, born Leeds, Yorkshire

Husband John is not with the family in 1901.

Births Jun Quarter 1901 
TRACEY, Thomas Joseph
Registered Leeds, Yorkshire
Vol 9b Page 436

Deaths Sep Quarter 1901
TRACEY, Thomas Joseph
Aged 0
Registered Leeds, Yorkshire
Vol 9b Page 350

Debra  :D

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Re: Search for Looby
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 02:22 GMT (UK) »
John Louby (Darroch) - birth was registered Dec.qtr.1895 Preston, Lancashire (as confirmed on 1901 census) - this would fit with a birthdate of 14th October but was 3 years earlier than what you state.

According to service records John Tamar Louby (in 6th Dragoon Guards) married Euphemia Ann Storrock Thynne 5/1/1895 Register Office, York.   To confirm above, son John is shown as born 14/10/1895.   When John enlisted in 1885 his next of kin is given as brother Thomas Louby (also in army).   When Thomas himself enlisted in 1883 he gave his nok as brother JAS. Louby who was in the 1st Bn. Rifle Brigade. 

In 1881 John - 10 yrs old - bc.1871 Woolwich, Kent is in Royal Military Asylum, Chelsea.   This appears to be a military school suggesting his father was a military man too.   Also in the school is Thomas Louby 13, born Canada - ref. RG11 - 79 - 88 - 2.   Both shown as scholars.

Have found a catholic baptism for Thomas Louby 5/2/1868 Basilque Notre Dame, Ottawa, Ontario, son of Thomas Louby and Jeanne Robb.   It's written in French but think I've got parents name right.

1871 Census at 14 Lawes Wood Street, Woolwich, Kent - ref. RG10 - 778 - 39 - 18

Thomas Lowby (as transcribed) 29   Private Rifle Brigade       b. Ireland
Jane Lowby   30                                                                  b. Scotland
James Lowby  5                                                                  b. Ireland
Thomas Lowby  3                                                                b. Canada
John T. Lowby  7 mos.                                                         b. 'At Sea'.

So, although John Tamar Louby states he was born in Woolwich (where brought up) he was actually born at sea when family returning from Canada.

Thomas Louby 20  Private 29th Regt., son of James Louby, Tailor (deceased) and Mary, nee Barrie (deceased) married 13/4/1863 Ayr, Scotland to
Jane Robb   19   Domestic Servant, dau. of James Robb, Ostler and Janet, nee Thornton (deceased)
(marriage on Scotlands People).

Looks like Thomas Louby bc.1841 died Dec.qtr.1875 Winchester, Hampshire and Jane predeceased him bc.1844, d.Mar.1874 Farnham, Surrey (Winchester and Farnham both army sites) and explains how Thomas jnr and John T. were in the Military Asylum in 1881.

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Re: Search for Looby
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 09:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all, this is getting interesting. Since my last post I have acquired a copy of Arthur Stevenson Looby's birth certificate from my mother (Arthur's youngest Daughter)

Arthur was born 21 Jun 1908 in Palmerston North, New Zealand.
His mother was Euphemia Looby, (no middle name given) Aged 29, that would make her born in or about 1879 in Arbroath, Scotland.

I have searched for Looby in arriving passenger lists to NZ without success, have yet to search Louby.

My mother was not told anything of Arthur's younger years. So I questioned his only son, Graham Looby and found some information, how accurate that information is, I don't know.

Arthur had told Graham that the only memory that he had of his father was on his fathers death bed at the family home. Arthur remembers his father as big man (remember this is young boy) with red hair and beard. This may explain where Arthur's eldest daughter got her red hair from.

After Arthur's fathers death he lived with his Aunty? In a boardinghouse in Auckland until he was old enough to seek employment. Nothing known about this so called Aunt.

It is believed that Arthur never kept in touch with Euphemia due to him not greeting along with his new step father, John Dorrach. It is believed that John and Euphimia moved to Australia and did not have any more children.

That is all the information that I have, if this ties in to previous threads that would be great.