William Henry Mather (AKA Henry Mather)

[Chris Colley]

Hi All,

I'm researching a branch of the Mather family from Henley back to Salford, via Grimsby.

Grimsby is clear enough but the problem comes in finding the correct parentage of William Henry Mather in Salford (or the surrounding area), as there are so many Mathers there.

This is a brief summary of William:
Born about 1870, Salford, Lancashire
Married Harriett Netherton, Widow (nee Stokes) 7 Dec 1893, Wesleyan Chapel, Arlington Street, Grimsby (in 1893 William was a 23 year old fisherman living at 152 Guildford Street, Grimsby)
1901 and 1911 residing at 269 Weelsby Street, Grimsby
Died 20 Jun 1949 Grimsby, Lincolnshire
Buried Scartho Rd, Cemetery, Grimsby
Naming 1893 Marriage Certificate: William Henry
Naming 1901 Grimsby Census: William Henry
Naming 1911 Grimsby Census: Henry Mather
Naming 1949 Scartho Rd, Cemetery, Grimsby: Henry Mather on gravestone

The only thing I have to by is that (apparently) on his marriage certificate his father is named as Thomas Mather, a deceased packer. I've found a few potential candidates but none of them seem quite right.

Please can anyone help me with this conundrum?

Chris

Researching Bumpass, Townsend, Francis, Spiers, and Mather (Bucks and Oxon primarily)

[Pheno]

Hi, have you seen this?

Web: UK, Royal Naval Reserve Service Records Index, 1860-1955
about William Henry Mather


Reference:BT 377/7/124907
Description:Name  Mather, William Henry
Place of Birth:  Salford, Lancashire
Number:  WSA 667
Date of Birth:  03 October 1870
Date: [1908-1955]

This is a pay per view record (£3.30) at The National Archives which might give some biographical info on William Henry.

Pheno

[Pheno]

Sorry, left this bit of info off the previous post.

Service No: WSA 667

URL:http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D8585673

Pheno
 

[spendlove]

Hi,

Just to add to Pheno's post, this is the National Archives site, have used their service
a lot. Once you have paid you get e-mail, within seconds, with connection to copies of documents
which you can down load.

Worth the money.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D8585673

Could this be William Henry Mather in 1871 Census
RG10; Piece: 4017; Folio: 7; Page: 8  Salford Lancashire

Mather Thomas  28
"          Pauline   22
"          Henry     6 months


Spendlove

[jan57]

1871 census 5 Sidmouth St Salford

Thomas Mather  28       ?? man  ( can't quite decipher  the occupation )
 Pauline Mather  22
 Henry Mather  6 Months

 All  born   Salford
 Class: RG10; Piece: 4017; Folio: 7; Page: 8


Deaths Jun 1879   

Mather  Pauline  30  Salford  8d 67

[Chris Colley]

1871 census 5 Sidmouth St Salford

Thomas Mather  28       ?? man  ( can't quite decipher  the occupation )
 Pauline Mather  22
 Henry Mather  6 Months

 All  born   Salford
 Class: RG10; Piece: 4017; Folio: 7; Page: 8


Deaths Jun 1879   

Mather  Pauline  30  Salford  8d 67

[Chris Colley]

1871 census 5 Sidmouth St Salford

Thomas Mather  28       ?? man  ( can't quite decipher  the occupation )
 Pauline Mather  22
 Henry Mather  6 Months

 All  born   Salford
 Class: RG10; Piece: 4017; Folio: 7; Page: 8


Deaths Jun 1879   

Mather  Pauline  30  Salford  8d 67

Thanks Jan. The occupation is a Lurry man (equivalent to a lorry driver of the present day). Perhaps he became a packer in later years. Happily, this is the same family as I was drawn toward as being most likely.

[Chris Colley]

Hi,

Just to add to Pheno's post, this is the National Archives site, have used their service
a lot. Once you have paid you get e-mail, within seconds, with connection to copies of documents
which you can down load.

Worth the money.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D8585673

Could this be William Henry Mather in 1871 Census
RG10; Piece: 4017; Folio: 7; Page: 8  Salford Lancashire

Mather Thomas  28
"          Pauline   22
"          Henry     6 months


Spendlove

Spendlove, Pheno and Jan,

You are all very, very, good at this. You were correct, Pheno; his parents are listed on his service record (despite them both "pushing up the daisies") and it confirms that Thomas and Pauline are indeed the parents (as suggested by you all). Fantastic to get corroboration on this as I  had already traced Thomas' lineage back another two generations. Rock and roll!

Kind regards,
Chris

[ThrelfallYorky]

Was William's dad the Thomas Mather who was in 1851 living in Regent Street Salford with parents Robert and Ellen Mather? I'd read "Porter"  as "Packer" there at first?