William Mander 1770? family of rickmansworth birth & death & parents? Stuck

[marcmanders]

I have been researching the manders family tree for years, I have been stuck for most of that time on Tracing the oldest family member going back to 1700s.
William Mander .. I cant find his parents, where he came from, birth & death record. Also his trade.

Also his wife Rachel Perry 1772b Rickmansworth, I cant find a death record or place buried, but have all the Perry family from Rickmansworth from 1700 - 1800s ie her mother father brothers sisters.

What I know William Mander Married Rachel Perry 12th Oct 1794 in Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, they had 4 x children all christened at St Marys church Rickmansworth
Joseph Mander 1795b, Elizabeth Mander 1797b, Ann Mander 1798b, James 1800b 

I have most of the Mander or manders tree to present date, ie from about 1850 they had the Manders Menageries funfair / circus show through William James Manders 1821b and James manders 1832b both cousins, the above William Mander Married Rachel was there Grandfather and grandmother.

Also William Mander most likely came from another area, Rickmansworth is a Hertfordshire town, but close boarder to Buckinghamshire, Surrey, London, Warwickshire???

If any further info I can give please ask

[CaroleW]

Hi

You appear to have posted on the Lancashire board in error so I will ask the moderator to move it to the Herts board

[[Ray]]

Hi

Is this the same family as the film actor
(Luther) Miles Mander (real name Lionel Henry 14 May 1888 – 8 February 1946) ?

. . . . . with a popular jazz pianist in the family?

Ray

[miriamkinga]

There's a death on the NBI for a William Mander born c.1771 buried 15/02/1836 aged 65 at St Thomas Bath Row, Birmingham, Warwickshire.

[miriamkinga]

Taking your point about the Manders coming from somewhere other than Hertfordshire have you seen the Manders marriages in Gloucestershire here: -

http://www.parishmouse.co.uk/gloucestershire/preston_upon_stour/preston_upon_stour_marriages_1750_to_1789

[marcmanders]

Hi

Is this the same family as the film actor
(Luther) Miles Mander (real name Lionel Henry 14 May 1888 – 8 February 1946) ?

. . . . . with a popular jazz pianist in the family?

Ray

Sorry to say No, Miles Manders Came from the manders of Wolverhampton, the Ink and paint people manders paint, Manders varnish & inks,
The Manders Family we are from are The Manders Menageries Funfair & Circus from 1850s, so far there is no connection to Manders Inks family, Plus I have looked at there tree. no connection.
thanks for the message

[[Ray]]

Hi

What updates are there for your query?
Is this now complete?
Would you like more assistance?

Regards
Ray