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Re: Knighton from Liverpool born 1902
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 21 August 14 16:16 BST (UK) »
JR  have a look at
www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk
Roman Catholic Baptisms .....4 baptisms for Knighton - parents James Knighton and Charlotte White..click on REQUEST FORM ...and you can purchase a copy for £3 each ...
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Re: Knighton from Liverpool born 1902
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 21 August 14 16:32 BST (UK) »
According to marriage registers William Carpenter married Mary Ellen White - father Patrick White.

I can't though, match Charlotte White with either of these.

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Re: Knighton from Liverpool born 1902
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 21 August 14 16:51 BST (UK) »
Garstonite -- I did try that RC site re baptisms but rexceived the response: Sorry, but we can not find an entry to match your query. I also not that it mention the site covers only up to 1900 -- wherea my James Albert was not born until 1902 -- I tried from 1890 to 1900 but again get the same negative response. But tahnks anyway.

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Re: Knighton from Liverpool born 1902
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 21 August 14 16:58 BST (UK) »
Heywood -- the 1911 census links Mary and Charlotte White by indicating that Mary (then Mary Carpenter)  is the aunt of the 3 of Charlotte's children living with her at the time -- surely that would establish the relationship would it not ? Thanks again for your help.

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Re: Knighton from Liverpool born 1902
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 21 August 14 17:03 BST (UK) »
No I mean, I can't find her in earlier censuses to show the relationship.
They are both White on their marriages and Mary's marriage is in Catholic registers so shows her father as Patrick.
It is proving difficult to find them together.

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Re: Knighton from Liverpool born 1902
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 21 August 14 17:15 BST (UK) »
Jim,
Are you happy that the findings are correct.

You mention that James is James Albert in several documents.

Do you recall his birthday?

We have here:
JamesKnighton-  born 4.12.1901. Baptised 18.12.1901

James Knighton - Birth registration West Derby March quarter 1902. He would be registered after Christmas in the New Year

James Knighton Royal Naval Reserve Record birthdate 4.12.1901

Death
James A Knighton December 1929 Southampton. Born abt 1902

At the moment it is only his death that has the 'A'

Is that what you have?
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Re: Knighton from Liverpool born 1902
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 21 August 14 18:36 BST (UK) »
Yes Heywood -- that is about what I have and I'm sure about the James Albert names. Here is what I have -- from the source:  Document number BT349 in the Registry of Shipping and Seamen: Register of Seamen, Central Index, Alphabetical Series (CR1) I have obtained a copy giving particulars of his employment as a ship's steward – obviously a passenger liner. Here is the information on that form:

It is a standard type of Merchant Navy record, date stamped 1-Sep-1927, it is a small 2-sided form, stating that he was born in Liverpool in 1901 -- was 5ft 8-1/2 inches tall with fair hair and grey eyes. James Albert is clearly written as his Christian Names and he was a First Class Waiter on the vessel Aquitania. The form is signed in competent and fluid penmanship by James A, Knighton. There are a few reference numbers related to his employment and unemployment insurance and at some later date someone has overwritten the word “Died”.

I do also have a copy of his death certificate that states that he died 1929 in the Southampton Hospital in the presence of my mother. It is not at hand just now but I'm fairly sure the name is given as James Albert Knighton, he was buried in Southampton cemetary and I have visited the gravesite.

Now with this information, new to me, I feel that I'm beginning to get to know him.

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Re: Knighton from Liverpool born 1902
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 21 August 14 18:43 BST (UK) »
Hello Garstonite -- if you are still available, and can tell me where and how I may obtain the birth certiificate it would be much appreciated. Thank you. Jim R.

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Re: Knighton from Liverpool born 1902
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 21 August 14 18:57 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I meant Baptism certificate, not birth certificate.