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Mother of Margaret Steele Lancashire
« on: Thursday 28 August 14 18:19 BST (UK) »
Hello

Below is the 1891 census showing John and Helen Steele with their daughter Margaret in Chorlton, Manchester.

Head   John Steele   39
Wife   Helen Steele   37
Daughter   Margaret Steele   14
Boarder   James Creighton   22

Margaret was born in 1876

I ordered the birth certificate, but in error, they delivered the wrong certificate, though my fault

I bought it to find out Helen's maiden name

I do not want to incur further expense, could anyone please find out the maiden name of Helen, wife of John Steel?

my thanks

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Re: Mother of Margaret Steele Lancashire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 August 14 19:43 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There is an online tree with Margaret's birth as 29 Sep 1876, her mother's maiden name is shown as Baird.

Whilst I always err on the side of caution with an online tree you may be able to relate to this information.

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Re: Mother of Margaret Steele Lancashire
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 August 14 19:47 BST (UK) »
Unable to find a marriage of John Steele to Helen Baird in England  ??? However as Helen was born in Scotland they could have married there.

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Re: Mother of Margaret Steele Lancashire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 August 14 19:53 BST (UK) »
They could have married in Scotland

I cannot find an English marriage too

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Re: Mother of Margaret Steele Lancashire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 August 14 20:00 BST (UK) »
Using the free search on Scotlands People, there is a marriage between John Steele and Helen Baird in 1876. That's all I can tell from the free search, although it would be possible to work out the county and town by process of elimination

30 credits on SP cost 7. I think you need 1 credit to view a page of searches (which would give you the place of marriage) 5 credits to view the whole marriage record

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/welcome.aspx

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LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: Mother of Margaret Steele Lancashire
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 August 14 20:08 BST (UK) »
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Re: Mother of Margaret Steele Lancashire
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 August 14 20:32 BST (UK) »
thank you

So its Helen Baird, all the information on the pedigree looks correct

One quick question

On the 1911 census, John and Helen are stated to have had two children, but one has died since.
Margaret is still alive, could someone please help find the other child?

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Re: Mother of Margaret Steele Lancashire
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 August 14 21:34 BST (UK) »
There's  a few to   choose from regarding the  other child  of  Helen and John  ,  here are 3  possibles   (  purely   based  on  the  RD district  of Chorlton  !)  All from Free BMD

George Henry   Steele   b June Qtr 1878   d  March Q  1879

Alfred  b  Dec Qtr  1881 d  March  Q  1882 

Robert William   b June Qtr   1881 d March  Qtr 1882