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Offline Annette7

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Re: William j bullock b1880
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 30 August 14 12:08 BST (UK) »
You've listed the wrong parents for 1881 census - have found he and his siblings that you list but parents are Alfred and Annie (details of census as posted by jim1).

However, I think it is actually William T. (not J.) and a William Thomas Bullock b.Sept.qtr.1880 died Sept.qtr.1881 in Burton on Trent.

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Re: William j bullock b1880
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 30 August 14 12:11 BST (UK) »
This looks like Alfred's marriage:
Alfred Joseph Bullock
birth: 1849 
marriage: 30 April 1873 Holy Trinity, Burton-Upon-Trent
father: Joseph Bullock
spouse: Mary Ann Joynes
other: Joseph Joynes

The info's wrong isn't it.
 
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Re: William j bullock b1880
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 30 August 14 12:15 BST (UK) »
There's no Mary Ann Hyde marriage to a ? Bullock
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: William j bullock b1880
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 30 August 14 12:19 BST (UK) »
The online trees seem up the pole!

Alfred Joseph Bullock married Mary Ann Joynes, dau. of Joseph Joynes, 30/4/1873 Holy Trinity, Burton upon Trent (familysearch).

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London -  Monk

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Re: William j bullock b1880
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 30 August 14 12:23 BST (UK) »
Sorry jim1 - we keep crossing over!

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Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
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Re: William j bullock b1880
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 30 August 14 12:55 BST (UK) »
This appears to be William T's parents in 1881:

Joseph Bullock  58
 Ann Bullock  50
 William T. Bullock  26
 Joseph H. Bullock  23
 Jemima Bullock  21
 Elizabeth Bullock  16
 Lydia Bullock  14
 Thomas Bullock  10
 
The trees are all over the place and unreliable.

Edited...Scrap that...he's too old ::)

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Re: William j bullock b1880
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 30 August 14 13:05 BST (UK) »
eeek...I really got myself in a tangle with this one ;D

I think I agree with Annette7(good job someone is on the ball today!)...the William T b.1880  appears to be a William J in the 1881 census with parents Alfred and Mary Ann and dies shortly after. The William J also b. 1880 with parents William and Ann in 1891 I think dies in 1894, age 14.
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Re: William j bullock b1880
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 30 August 14 13:16 BST (UK) »
Hi all

Thanks guys sorry all a bit confusing but think we got there in the end I will get the death cert for William and let you know if its him  :)


Thanks once again  :)

Kind regards
Jill w  :)

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Re: William j bullock b1880
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 30 August 14 13:17 BST (UK) »
Alfred's wife shown on census as born Ticknall, Derbyshire ca. 1853 and indeed there is a Mary Ann Joynes birth reg'd Ashby de la Zouch in Dec.qtr.1852!   I first thought, looking at census, she appears to be the daughter of Joseph and a Hannah. (In 1851 the family are in Derby listed on Ancestry as 'Jognes' - by 1861 Joseph is listed as a widower) but there is a baptism on familysearch for a Mary Ann Joynes 19/11/1854 Ticknall, dau. of Hannah Joynes so obviously illegitimate.

Hannah Joynes, dau. of John Joynes,  appears to marry a Joseph Hyde, son of John, 16/4/1855 Ticknall (familysearch) and on 1861 Census Mary Ann is listed as Hyde so I am guessing this is why his wife is shown on the trees as Mary Ann Hyde.   The name given for Mary Ann's father when she married - Joseph Joynes - is a corruption of her birth surname, and Christian name of 'step' father.   There is no way of knowing is Joseph Hyde was actually her father - I suspect not since she married as Joynes!

Why do so many online trees state incorrect information!  Mary Ann was born as Joynes, baptised as Joynes, married as Joynes and there appears to be no proof that her mothers subsequent husband - Joseph Hyde - was actually Mary Ann's father!

Annette   

Scopes (One-Name Study - Worldwide)
Suffolk - Grist, Knights, Bullenthorpe, Watcham
Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.   Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow.   Just walk beside me and be my friend.

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk