Researching how far my Callaghan ancestors from Navan, Meath go back

[Gibby1968]

A few days ago I decided to see if I could find where Thomas and Ellen married and I came across the website http://www.oristownparish.com/home and sent them a message.  This is the reply I got today;

Dear Janet,

Regretfully, our records here in Oristown go back to 1890 only. We have not got your requested records here.

Regards

Maria Keegan

Secretary

PS I meant to post a message the other day but I've been a bit busy and forget which day I sent the message to them.

[Gibby1968]

I am finally getting somewhere with my Irish family.

Thanks to many Irish records going online recently I have been able to find the deaths and burials for my 3x great grandparents Thomas and Ellen Callaghan

I am so chuffed to find this information after searching for them for so long.

I don't even have to bother getting the death certificates as all the information is on the register.

All I have to do now is find out where they are buried and then I will go back and see if I can find their marriage.  I don't think that will be so easy nor will finding their parents.

[Gibby1968]

I am unable to confirm Thomas' birth or marriage as I think they took place before registration began in Ireland

[aghadowey]

I am unable to confirm Thomas' birth or marriage as I think they took place before registration began in Ireland

Do you mean this Thomas?

Thomas Callaghan was my 3x great grandfather and he was born c1848 in Navan, Meath according to some research I did a while ago.
He married Ellen Melia on 25 July 1867 in Oristown, Meath and they had five children between c1870 and c1879.

He was born before civil registration of births but from 1864 ALL marriages should have been registered.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

[Sinann]

but as we already discovered quite some time ago his marriage was never registered

Getting back on track, it would appear that many of the marriages on that page are not showing on the Civil Registry, so what does everyone think, could we be dealing with a priest who did not send in the information or is this something that would be worth asking the GRO about?
As at least one does have a Civil Cert why not all the rest?

This is the reply I got from the Irish GRO this morning after I replied to their message yesterday;

Thank you for your e-mail – is it possible that the details you found may refer to a Church Record of this Marriage rather than the Civil Records that we hold..?

An extensive search for the period stated was carried out , if you have any further queries , please contact me at any stage..

There is no marriage cert because it appears the priest did not register the marriages on that page of the church register.

[Sinann]

You could perhaps try RootsIreland, they sometimes have more information on the marriages than the NLI microfilms.

[Gibby1968]

The only other Irish website I have tried gives me a marriage date of 25 July 1867 in Oristown, Meath.  I am unable to confirm this information.

As I now have 1840 as the year of birth for Thomas I thought it would be easy to find his parents.  I think registration of births started well after this date so I will not be able to find out who they were.  I was hoping the marriage would clarify things.

[aghadowey]

PLEASE READ INFORMATION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED so that we don't have to keep repeating the same things over and over again.

As I now have 1840 as the year of birth for Thomas I thought it would be easy to find his parents.  I think registration of births started well after this date so I will not be able to find out who they were.
Civil registration of births started in 1864!

The only other Irish website I have tried gives me a marriage date of 25 July 1867 in Oristown, Meath.  I am unable to confirm this information.
What 'Irish website'? LDS? Catholic Parish Registers? other?

[heywood]

I don't know if we have already had the link to the marriage but it is here

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635215#page/55/mode/1up

Ancestry indexes show names as Collohan and Metia.