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Martin and Espie family, Moneymore, Northern Ireland
« on: Wednesday 03 September 14 22:23 BST (UK) »
Hi there I am in Moneymore researching the Martin family who emigrated to New Zealand in 1841. Does anyone know where the Martin parents are buried ?
Cheers liz remmerswaal Hughes

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Re: Martin and Espie family, Moneymore, Northern Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 September 14 07:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Lizrem,
   Welcome to rootschat  :) :)

   It would help if you gave christian names, Liz. :)

   This is a bit of a long shot but I searched NZ newspapers for mentions of Martin and moneymore and found these obits

Edward MARTIN, arrived in 1841 and named his estate Moneymore after his ancestral home.  Lots of good family  info here.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/019vd/

Mrs Edward MARTIN of Moneymore (Annie REID)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/019ve/

and another obit for Mrs Edward MARTIN with more family info http://www.rootschat.com/links/019vf/

I hope these are useful  :)

regards,
   Ros

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Re: Martin and Espie family, Moneymore, Northern Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 September 14 07:57 BST (UK) »
Another description of Edward MARTIN, born in Moneymore, in a biographical article about early pioneers

He arrived in 1841 with his orphan brothers and sisters.  Two brothers and two sisters survive him - William MARTIN (Milton), Joseph MARTIN (Christchurch), Mrs SMITH (Greenfield) and Mrs DAWSON (Milton).   And more details of his early life.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/019vh/

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Re: Martin and Espie family, Moneymore, Northern Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 September 14 08:02 BST (UK) »
And an obit for Mrs Jane Martin DUTHIE, also born in Moneymore who was a half-sister to Edward MARTIN.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/019vi/

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Sorry I've just re-read your post and now realise that you are probably asking where Edward's parents were buried in Moneymore? 
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Re: Martin and Espie family, Moneymore, Northern Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 September 14 08:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Ros, thanks so much for that. Yes i was aware of the family down south and visited Moneymore in Otago last year! The parents names were John Martin and Sarah Martin nee Espie, died 1838 of typhoid. John was listed as a clergyman and a farmer, I don't know what church and I don't know where the farm was. Cheers Liz

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Re: Martin and Espie family, Moneymore, Northern Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 September 14 08:41 BST (UK) »
1838 is too earlier for most records in Ireland but the 1831 figures for County Londonderry do survive and interestingly there is a John Martin as head of a household of 5 males and 5 females along with one male servant (Presbyterian). The family of ten as listed as 'other Protestant' so not Church of Ireland or Presbyterian. One possibility for religion is Methodist (who would have used lay preachers). However, Martin is not an uncommon surname and this may not be the correct family.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246495/007246495_00156.pdf

Will do some digging about Moneymore and see if I can get more details.
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Re: Martin and Espie family, Moneymore, Northern Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 September 14 08:47 BST (UK) »
A bit about Moneymore (1846) "In 1823 a large and handsome Presbyterian meeting house was built by the same muniferant proprietors, at a cost of 3,000 and another has been lately erected. The Roman Catholics have a very neat chapel in the neighbourhood; and the Methodists have a place of worship."
http://www.cotyroneireland.com/moneymore1.html

Note: there is at present a Congregational church in Moneymore but I believe it is very recent.
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Re: Martin and Espie family, Moneymore, Northern Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 September 14 09:44 BST (UK) »
Some of this you may have already see but am posting it as it gives important biographical details about John Martin of Moneymore, his 2 marriages and the children from those marriages-
"... Jane Martin was born in Moneymore townland, by Maghera town, Co. Londonderry, Ireland, 15 January 1815, her parents being John Martin and his wife Jane Shiels.   Jane had an older brother, Robert, born 1809 and a younger sister, Rebecca, born 1817.   Her mother died in 1817 and in 1818 her father married Sarah Espie who had children:  Edward born 1819, John born 1822, Thomas born 1823, Sarah born 1825, Margaret born 1828, Joseph born 1831, William born 1832 and James born 1834.
John Martin and his second wife Sarah both died in 1838, after which the family, on the advice of their uncle Dr Robert Espie, were persuaded to emigrate. ..."
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Smckelvey/pre1848/duthie.htm
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Re: Martin and Espie family, Moneymore, Northern Ireland
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 September 14 11:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for this interesting information, it is very good. We had been concentrating not he mainstream churches and had searched there in the Belfast records office, unsuccessfully!