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a continuation of the 1797 document. My apologies.
« on: Friday 05 September 14 19:19 BST (UK) »
a continuation of the 1797 document. My apologies.

i get the fornication bit, but i lose the plot as I cant suss out whos fornicating with Marion Bryson! I beleive its James Tait, but why is John Brunton mentioned twice.

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Re: a continuation of the 1797 document. My apologies.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 September 14 23:41 BST (UK) »
Hi

Here is my transcription of this -

 ……the 20 day John Roge son to John Roge in Eastside of the Gton & William Robeson son to Andrew Robeson in the Westside of the Gton & Rob(er)t Wood son to James Wood in the Griestoun & Sammull Tait son to James Tait servitour to John Brounton in the Grieston wer baptised by Mr Robeson the minister at E?ston upon cassion that he should sattisffie the church for his offence committed by him with Marion Bryson in the act of fornication & that he should submit himselfe to the will of the session that they wer pledged to under this present government & Walter Stephenson & John Brunton wer his cassioner that he should enter his sattisfactiogn ever he wer called to it all these above named children wer baptized before the congregation June the eigth day Thomas Mathison son to Thomas Mathison in the …..

‘cassion’ and ‘cassioner’ I would think is ‘caution’ and ‘cautioner’

In Scots law, ‘caution’ is security or bail, and a ‘cautioner’ is someone who stands surety for someone else.
See http://www.rps.ac.uk/static/glossary.html#C

It seems to me it was indeed James Tait who had done the wicked deed, (there’s a lot of names in therewith no reference back to which ‘he’ that has to 'satisfy the church….') . James is the last ‘father’ mentioned before the judgement. He is servant to John Brounton, and then John Brunton, along with Walter Stephenson, stand surety for him later on in the piece – saying he will make sure James comes to the ‘session’ should he so be called.

Where is 'Griestoun' ? I expect the name has changed a little now.
Cheers

Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: a continuation of the 1797 document. My apologies.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 September 14 13:18 BST (UK) »
I can't tell from the context of what you have posted but would near Innerleithen in Peebles-shire make sense?

There is a Grieston mentioned on maps near Traquair House and Innerleithen.

The Royal Commission on Ancient and Historic Monuments in Scotland shows a few entries. The link below shows them in a mapped context. My guess is that the people in question were living near the farm rather than the quarry.

http://canmoremapping.rcahms.gov.uk/index.php?action=do_simple&sitename=grieston

Hope that helps rather than hinders.

S_L
 

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Re: a continuation of the 1797 document. My apologies.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 September 14 15:26 BST (UK) »
"Hoge" rather than "Roge"

"Erelston"?


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Re: a continuation of the 1797 document. My apologies.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 May 22 18:45 BST (UK) »
1697 document. John Brunton moved to Grieston around 1692 from Bold, James Tait was his servant. John was born 1650 and died 1736, buried at Traquair